Restriction due to aborting games - Chess Forums - Page 2

LeaMnum · 2022-03-03T02:48:24-08:00

My account has been restricted due to the fact that I have aborted a few games. However, I have only aborted games against those showing a Russian flag. I think right now I have an absolute right to do this. FIFA, UEFA, the IPC among very many others are excluding Russian competitors at the moment

LeaMnum

Mar 3, 2022

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#21

OranegJuice wrote:

Stop looking at your opponent's flag. Problem solved.

it is not really the problem solved, is it?

OranegJuice

Mar 3, 2022

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#22

LeaMnum wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

This is not a political discussion, it is a moral one!

And yes, this is discrimination - I have a moral right to discriminate and not play those whose flag conceivably aligns them with…

(Snip)

Fighting fire with fire usually burns more houses down.

It does, and that is inevitable what will happen here. But at the same time we can't do nothing as crimes against humanity and possible genocide are occurring. A horrible situation to be in, and yet here we are.

I just don't see how aborting online chess games is going to affect what's happening in Ukraine in any way.

LeaMnum

Mar 3, 2022

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#23

OranegJuice wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

This is not a political discussion, it is a moral one!

And yes, this is discrimination - I have a moral right to discriminate and not play those whose flag conceivably aligns them with…

(Snip)

Fighting fire with fire usually burns more houses down.

It does, and that is inevitable what will happen here. But at the same time we can't do nothing as crimes against humanity and possible genocide are occurring. A horrible situation to be in, and yet here we are.

I just don't see how aborting online chess games is going to affect what's happening in Ukraine in any way.

It won't, obviously. Yet I still don't want to play against the Russian flag.

Karrysparov

Mar 3, 2022

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#24

you guys are aborting games against russians (they didn't even have a word in the war. blame putin not them)

LeaMnum

Mar 3, 2022

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#25

The_Shashophille wrote:

you guys are aborting games against russians (they didn't even have a word in the war. blame putin not them)

yes, obviously I do!

but, as said many times, it is not just me blocking Russians; FIFA, UEFA, IPC, IOC, USA, EU etc etc etc.

NM Kowarenai

Mar 3, 2022

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#26

LeaMnum wrote:

why should I be restricted for having the same moral view?

cause you have a right to be a good person and your choosing not to

Karrysparov

Mar 3, 2022

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#27

the reason that's happening is because those people believe that if they cut off russian access to.. other things, putin will be pressured in and end the war. but I assume chesss.com staff believe nobody should not have access to chess.

LeaMnum

Mar 3, 2022

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#28

Kowarenai wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

why should I be restricted for having the same moral view?

cause you have a right to be a good person and your choosing not to

I'm not being judged by you. In your other post you just attributed lots of opinions to me that I didn't say. You are confusing a lot of things.

LeaMnum

Mar 3, 2022

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The_Shashophille wrote:

the reason that's happening is because those people believe that if they cut off russian access to.. other things, putin will be pressured in and end the war. but I assume chesss.com staff believe nobody should not have access to chess.

yes, I understand that. Clearly.

And I understand that chess.com might have that belief too. But also I am allowed to align my belief with the former rather than the latter, without having my account restricted for it.

NM Kowarenai

Mar 3, 2022

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#30

LeaMnum wrote:

Kowarenai wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

why should I be restricted for having the same moral view?

cause you have a right to be a good person and your choosing not to

I'm not being judged by you. In your other post you just attributed lots of opinions to me that I didn't say. You are confusing a lot of things.

no its not really confusion, its just pointing out that you have violated the rules of the site by simply aborting via against "russian players" which also breaks sportsmanship. its not moral to mistreat other players and quit just cause they are russian when they have the same rights as you to play anyone here including me so why cant you? its not magic

LaakyBoy

Mar 3, 2022

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Uživatel B1ZMARK napsal:

FIDE has passed rules forbidding Russia and Belarus from hosting world tournaments. Sergei Karjakin faces ethical charges by FIDE. I believe Russian professional players can still play in worldwide tournaments, as long as they don’t use the Russian flag. This is on chess24 news. You should read their official statement.

Onto chess.com. Aborting games against people using the Russian flag is honestly your own problem. It’s literally written as a warning: aborting games can lead to your account being restricted.

Now if we consider chess.com banning Russian players: this is almost impossible. People can randomly change their flag in settings; and an ip ban can be bypassed with a VPN. And thirdly, banning random Russians is a good way to show discrimination. And I thought we were in the civilized world?

And they're playing under a different flag if they're ashamed of the Russian one.

LeaMnum

Mar 3, 2022

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#32

Kowarenai wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

Kowarenai wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

why should I be restricted for having the same moral view?

cause you have a right to be a good person and your choosing not to

I'm not being judged by you. In your other post you just attributed lots of opinions to me that I didn't say. You are confusing a lot of things.

no its not really confusion, its just pointing out that you have violated the rules of the site by simply aborting via against "russian players" which also breaks sportsmanship. its not moral to mistreat other players and quit just cause they are russian when they have the same rights as you to play anyone here including me so why cant you? its not magic

I realise I have violated the rules of the site. That is what this whole forum is about. You don't need to point that out.

And is is no more immoral for me to abort against Russian players than it is for FIFA to ban the Russian football team from competing. Exactly the same moral basis. And I have a perfect right to do what I am doing. As I stated, most Russians are wonderful people. they are taking to the street and hopefully will manage to bring an end to all this. But just now I don't have to play chess against them.

LaakyBoy

Mar 3, 2022

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#33

Uživatel B1ZMARK napsal:

LeaMnum wrote:

This is not a political discussion, it is a moral one!

And yes, this is discrimination - I have a moral right to discriminate and not play those whose flag conceivably aligns them with…

(Snip)

Fighting fire with fire usually burns more houses down.

LaakyBoy

Mar 3, 2022

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#34

As houses burn in peacekeeping missions

cellen01

Mar 3, 2022

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#35

The Russian people didn't do anything wrong. Its the government. It has literally nothing with normal Russians to do. So you should just treat them like normal people. Well, that 's all my opinion.

Karrysparov

Mar 3, 2022

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#36

LeaMnum wrote:

The_Shashophille wrote:

the reason that's happening is because those people believe that if they cut off russian access to.. other things, putin will be pressured in and end the war. but I assume chesss.com staff believe nobody should not have access to chess.

yes, I understand that. Clearly.

And I understand that chess.com might have that belief too. But also I am allowed to align my belief with the former rather than the latter, without having my account restricted for it.

you definitely are. but that doesn't mean you can go do whatever you want. you still have to follow the abort rule

NM Kowarenai

Mar 3, 2022

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#37

LeaMnum wrote:

Kowarenai wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

Kowarenai wrote:

LeaMnum wrote:

why should I be restricted for having the same moral view?

cause you have a right to be a good person and your choosing not to

I'm not being judged by you. In your other post you just attributed lots of opinions to me that I didn't say. You are confusing a lot of things.

no its not really confusion, its just pointing out that you have violated the rules of the site by simply aborting via against "russian players" which also breaks sportsmanship. its not moral to mistreat other players and quit just cause they are russian when they have the same rights as you to play anyone here including me so why cant you? its not magic

I realise I have violated the rules of the site. That is what this whole forum is about. You don't need to point that out.

And is is no more immoral for me to abort against Russian players than it is for FIFA to ban the Russian football team from competing. Exactly the same moral basis. And I have a perfect right to do what I am doing. As I stated, most Russians are wonderful people. they are taking to the street and hopefully will manage to bring an end to all this. But just now I don't have to play chess against them.

alright bro well thats up to you but even if they are russian, treat them the same way you would want to be treated and give them a game, it may make their day better

LaakyBoy

Mar 3, 2022

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#38

Uživatel cellen01 napsal:

The Russian people didn't do anything wrong. Its the government. It has literally nothing with normal Russians to do. So you should just treat them like normal people. Well, that 's all my opinion.

If they're so great, why don't they care what their president does. The president they themselves elected.

CM RAU4ever

Mar 3, 2022

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#39

I stand united with OP. I will send a message to chess.com asking for clarification. IOC, and chess is a part of this, has urged us all to not only stop playing events on Russian or Belarusian soil, but also that in the event there are events with Russian or Belarussian athletes, that their flags will not be shown. Refusing to play against players that are flying these flags should not be punished or lead to restricted accounts. OP is just following IOC guidelines.

keep1teasy

Mar 3, 2022

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#40

LaakyBoy wrote:

Uživatel B1ZMARK napsal:

FIDE has passed rules forbidding Russia and Belarus from hosting world tournaments. Sergei Karjakin faces ethical charges by FIDE. I believe Russian professional players can still play in worldwide tournaments, as long as they don’t use the Russian flag. This is on chess24 news. You should read their official statement.

Onto chess.com. Aborting games against people using the Russian flag is honestly your own problem. It’s literally written as a warning: aborting games can lead to your account being restricted.

Now if we consider chess.com banning Russian players: this is almost impossible. People can randomly change their flag in settings; and an ip ban can be bypassed with a VPN. And thirdly, banning random Russians is a good way to show discrimination. And I thought we were in the civilized world?

And they're playing under a different flag if they're ashamed of the Russian one.

When the Vietnam was was going on, many Americans did not support it. However, nobody saw mass emigrations from America. You can disagree with a country's actions but still love the country itself.