RoadMap for achieving 2000 Elo rating in 1 year

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pellik wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:

And we're supposed to believe that? lol  Looks pretty fishy to me...

 

I've redacted my name and peak rating, but hopefully this will help alleviate your disbelief.

Not to undermine your achievement, it's great, but write a book, really?  The first thing someone has to wonder is the amount of chess related activities that happened between 2005 and 2011 after which your rating was just trying to catch up.  Obviously you weren't accurately rated after every game, you're accurately rated after you plateau.

And of course has to wonder as well about your sub 1000 rating, and how accurate that was.  Did you languish for many tournaments/months at sub 1000, climb 800 points in a year, then level off?  That's certainly not shown either, and I still have to wonder if a person like this even exists.

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waffllemaster wrote:
pellik wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:

And we're supposed to believe that? lol  Looks pretty fishy to me...

 

I've redacted my name and peak rating, but hopefully this will help alleviate your disbelief.

Not to undermine your achievement, it's great, but write a book, really?  The first thing someone has to wonder is the amount of chess related activities that happened between 2005 and 2011 after which your rating was just trying to catch up.  Obviously you weren't accurately rated after every game, you're accurately rated after you plateau.

And of course has to wonder as well about your sub 1000 rating, and how accurate that was.  Did you languish for many tournaments/months at sub 1000, climb 800 points in a year, then level off?  That's certainly not shown either, and I still have to wonder if a person like this even exists.

I am convinced, especially after hearing the training program.

Even if one wants to say that the starting strenght of pellik was 1400 (which I'm not sure about of course), this is still a MASSIVE achievement.

Heck, most people cannot go from 1800 to 2000 in a single year! I went from 1850 to 2000 in ten months, but that was four years after I had first reached 1800.

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jock of the day

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u can gain 2000 elo in 2 months just by reading books ,watching videos of endgames n t5actics n meditation for 3hrs a day:P

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Undecided

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Sometimes just plain bad luck can set you back from becoming an expert or master [in the short term]

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Thats it! I'm gonna buy a satnav. Give up the rest of my life for a year,Beat Anand and become $2.55 m richer, beyond my wildest dreams.

Please! Forgive my sarcasm. Due to the obvious nature of the title;Learn by your mistakes and play more chess. 

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If we all spent thirty hours a week on chess like Pellik here I'm sure many of us would have similar results to his own. The catch is simply that most of us aren't physically able to dedicate that amount of time to chess due to jobs and other commitments, or lack the will power to follow through on a long term serious attempt to better their game. Most burn out in a short period of time or opt to play loads of blitz chess or some other fruitless activity as far as real chess progress is concerned.

I'm reminded of this quote by seven time Mr. Olympia body builder Ronnie Coleman based on this discussion that I think is relevant to why there are so few Experts on up to GM's chess players out there. The same goes for chess:

"Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weights"

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I agree! to many people want to dedicate there time reading and writing on chess forums. Or reading someone elses stratergis to improve there game. 

The hard work is learning for yourself!!

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stevie65 wrote:

I agree! to many people want to dedicate there time reading and writing on chess forums. Or reading someone elses stratergis to improve there game. 

The hard work is learning for yourself!!

Absolutely. You can't expect to lift weights 30 minutes- an hour a day and expect to become one of the strongest body builders in the world. The same is true in chess. The ones at the top 2% in the United States (National Masters) have surely dedicated enough time to chess for it to constitute a second job. It tires me out just sitting here thinking about the amount of work IM's and GM's have put forth to achieve their position.

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Hmm.. Not all Gm's. do you think Bobby Fischer reflected on his obsessive endeavour while he reclused in Iceland?

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I would think it very hard to play one month with the only objective to avoid blunders. 

I also, do not see it as realistic to go from 1200 to 2000 in one year.

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Step 1. Start out at 2100

Step 2. Don't Study

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What I have come to learn is that the complexity of chess is vastly undererstimated by low level chess players and the public in general.

Some think that if one is a genius, it doesn't take an extraordinary amount of effort...it flows naturally.

Others think that with a certain plan, within one year 2000 or higher is doable.

As Reb would say: Hogwash

Guys whom I respect...Reb, wafflemaster, Andy Clifton...have said about 6 to 8 years to get to 1800. I have found this to be very realistic. And that's if you have the potential and you really work at it.

People who don't have what it takes to begin with? I don't think so.

Natural-born chess killer geniuses? I don't know. You'd have to ask them. But what I've read about many of them...work, work, work. No "one year" wonder program.

I wish there was. But, there ain't.

And, that's all for the good. What kind of a chess world would we have if it was really that easy and everyone could be a grandmaster in a year or two?

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To say that low level players Vastly underestimate the complexity of chess is patronising. Chess has multi levels of interest it is not for the excluse of elite! The aspirations of the masses is not for anyones judgement.I am privvy to chess enough said!

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To say that low level players Vastly underestimate the complexity of chess is patronising.

No, it is not patronizing. It is the reality. You have just demonstrated your ignorance and fortified what I said. Sorry...not trying to hurt your feelings, either.

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Ok! e4nf3.. so..I'm a low level player why do you think i do not understand the complexities of chess?

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Well, joey...here you go again...making an ass of yourself.

By the way, I edited what I said. Thanks a lot for hitting the damn quote button before I could get it done.

You are just itching for a fight.

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stevie65 wrote:

Ok! e4nf3.. so..I'm a low level player why do you think i do not understand the complexities of chess?

Now..now...you are putting words in my mouth.

What I've said  has nothing to do with you, personally. It was a general statement.

Secondly, I wasn't talking about one's current knowledge of chess. I was referring to the fact that the more....let's use me as an example...the more I learn, the better I get...the more I realize that there is more to learn.

Now, both you boys...take the chip off your shoulders.

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joeydvivre wrote:
stevie65 wrote:

To say that low level players Vastly underestimate the complexity of chess is patronising. 

Thank you for the canned response.  But here is what you have missed (the rest of the thread, the purpose of the thread, the original post) [pick whichever you like].  The OP gave this trivial plan to become an expert at something that is pretty hard and there has been some acceptance of that.  To say that is vastly underestimating the complexity of chess is surely not "patronising".

Yes, making progress in chess is not as easy as the OP implied it was. And the progression curve is not a linear one: you don't improve in a nice, neat incremental manner no matter what study plan you follow.

Despite continued study, plateaus (and even drops) in rating are common. And a plateau can last awhile before something clicks and you make another jump in improvement.

Its an interesting, and likely productive, idea to post your own study plan for any suggestions of improvement to it that others may make; but its another thing entirely to state that everyone who plays chess can advance to 2000 just by following the plan of a player who has not even seen that milestone. That is where the OP botched it.

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