Scholar's Mate Opening Without Insult?

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You mean like this?:

 

Your opponent shouldn't be insulted at all. That's called the bishop's opening and its perfectly playable and has many books on it.

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The fact of the matter is, I don't care how my opponent moves, if a player wants to play that sort of thing against me, they can, but I also know that any person that tries a scholars mate against me will be torn to pieces b/c they didn't follow basic opening ideas like 1. Bring knights out early 2. Avoid bringing the queen out early 3. King safety

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Oh. Qf3 is not that great of a move because it blocks for your kingside knight.

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Morphy's favorite move was Qf3, but he didn't play it on the 2nd move ;)

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I don't feel insulted when people do it here.  But it does look a little newbie, I guess. On Yahoo Chess, it gets really really old fast...every other idiot tries for it first.

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1.e4 e5 2.Qf3 is the Napolean Opening, I think. Named because he could never keep his queen at home. I think that's a little more offbeat than 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4, which is perfectly reasonable - I play it, for instance! It has a great deal of transpositional potential and should by no means be insulting.

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I'd laugh pretty hard if anyone typed "don't insult me" in the middle of a game for whatever reason.

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AfafBouardi wrote:

I'd laugh pretty hard if anyone typed "don't insult me" in the middle of a game for whatever reason.


 Good point lol

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I once called someone "evil devil child" because of how he was playing. I went a step further, when he won I sent him poisoned cookies, but I suspect he fed them to ants.

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No, I ate 'em. Poison and all. It gives the cookies a little extra zing of flavor.

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Apparently not enough zing. 

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This is the wrong way to view it -- if someone tries the scholar's mate on you, sure, be insulted, but don't expect to win, at worst it's simply a loss of tempo when they have to move their queen somewhere else, it's far from a game loosing blunder.  If you expect to win you're setting yourself up psychologically.

I wouldn't be so much insulted as I'd have no respect for them as a "player."  If a player rated higher than me opened with it, I'd just see it as a novelty opening like 1.b4 -- I wouldn't expect to win, but I'd expect an advantage out of the opening.

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orangehonda wrote:

This is the wrong way to view it -- if someone tries the scholar's mate on you, sure, be insulted, but don't expect to win, at worst it's simply a loss of tempo when they have to move their queen somewhere else, it's far from a game loosing blunder.  If you expect to win you're setting yourself up psychologically.

I wouldn't be so much insulted as I'd have no respect for them as a "player."  If a player rated higher than me opened with it, I'd just see it as a novelty opening like 1.b4 -- I wouldn't expect to win, but I'd expect an advantage out of the opening.


This post gets a thumbs up.

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playing live chess on chess.com i always have people opening like this and i pretty much just laugh at them to myself and appreciate that they chose a weak opening to use.

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orangehonda wrote:

This is the wrong way to view it -- if someone tries the scholar's mate on you, sure, be insulted, but don't expect to win, at worst it's simply a loss of tempo when they have to move their queen somewhere else, it's far from a game loosing blunder.  If you expect to win you're setting yourself up psychologically.

I wouldn't be so much insulted as I'd have no respect for them as a "player."  If a player rated higher than me opened with it, I'd just see it as a novelty opening like 1.b4 -- I wouldn't expect to win, but I'd expect an advantage out of the opening.


Dear chap, please do try to spell 'lose' and 'losing' correctly. You're loosely using loosing where it doesn't belong ;)

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I'm actually amazed at how often people have problems with lose and loose.  Maybe we should change the spelling of lose to luze?