Seirawan is not the Bob Ross of chess

I don't think art should be measured by whether people are putting a lot of money in it or not, there are many examples of art works which are ridiculously expensive but are weak works.

If you think Bob Ross was a master of his craft, then what about someone like Albert Bierstadt? Don't make me laugh. Bob's paintings look like child play close to real landscape paintings.

And I disagree with your comparison, being a master in the Ruy Lopez is only good if your opponent wants to play the Ruy Lopez. Being a master at endgames is vastly superior than being a master in a specific opening in chess.

Bob Ross hasn't convinced me he is a good painter, it seems to me he just chose a path where he can paint easily without being punished for making mistakes (after all, that's why he says there are no mistakes, just happy accidents). If he did that on portraits and paintings like that he would simply cause uncanny valley. He gets away simply because he does landscape paintings. But it's not real quality ones.

Go look into Albert Bierstadt or any other real masters on landscape paintings, compare them to Bob Ross, and come to your conclusion.

Perhaps he is the jhon cena of chess

I mean, his personality and TV show were loved, but not so much his art right?

Ok, maybe it's expensive, but he was famous. I didn't think artists had much respect for his art.

Art is very intimidating to enter. Bob Ross made it seem approachable. Bob Ross gets you in the door. Bob Ross inspires. The problem is that inspiration only gets you so far. Learning a couple tricks that work in specific ways only gets you so far. 

If all you want to do is what Bob Ross did, I don't criticize that at all. One of my biggest annoyances is when people project what they want out of art onto others and criticize them based on that. If you enjoy painting one thing in a casual way and don't carea bout intensive study of art, go for it! That said, if you do want to go beyond that and develop a deeper understanding of art elements and principles, media choices, color theory, various techniques and styles, clinging to Bob Ross will absolutely hold you back.

Also, the oil paints marketed under his name are horrible quality and offer a very limited palette that only lets you paint what he paints. If you want good, inexpensive oils, even just to paint what Bob Ross does, buy Gamblin 1980.

I think Bob Ross is somewhat close to Andre Rieu in music. Andre Rieu is charismatic and many people like him because he introduced them to "classical music". I can even find pro musicians that like him. But his concerts have very little quality in terms of music.

It's neat to find some other people interested in art.

I'm no good, I just started, but what's interesting to me is how some of the chess vs art beginner questions and answers are the same.

Like a beginner might ask "which single thing should I do to make me a great artist?"

and the answer is "lol, there is no single thing, just try to learn a bit of everything, and after 10 years maybe you'll be OK"

Occasionally a good art thread will pop up here, but it's tragically uncommon given how ubiquitous and fascinating art is.

What kind of art are you starting with? If you're getting into simple pencil drawing, a really good (and inexpensive) book is Bert Dodson's "Keys to Drawing".

Comparing chess to art is a good insight; there's a lot connecting them--also things like the fact that anyone who puts in effort can get pretty good, that there are better and worse ways to practice, and so on. I think it's because art is a more fundamental thing than people usually think of, like everything has "art" in it to one degree or another.

I want to paint stuff eventually, but some people suggested I learn some basic drawing first, and AFAIK that seems correct, also it's much less expensive

I'll read the reviews for Dodson's book, thanks for the suggestion!

Drawing's a great place to start since it's inexpensive and it's a good way to get familiar with the elements and principles of design. That said, you don't need to be able to draw to paint, so don't worry too much about diving right in sooner rather than later. The two are different skills, and both have their own variety of styles and techniques to make them even more diverse. If you don't mind the mess, charcoal can be a fun way of blurring the line between them.

the duck seems to be good at both.

And mosaic, and printmaking, and sculpture, as I recall. One feather for every talent!

renaissance duck

Now, a Rubik's cube.

bob ross is rolling in his grave because you dont like his works.

Yeah, my aunt actually loved to paint. Every day she was painting. No training at all, and she couldn't draw worth anything haha.

But my personality is a little less... free spirited. I actually want to be told "these are the elements, this is how you practice, blah blah blah" then after that I might do whatever, but first I want to learn some stuff.

Bob Ross was a blitz painter, he could turn out huge volumes of quality work and was very prolific. I read they only had the studio access at certain times, so he would have to film multiple episodes back to back sometimes and would conceptualize and produce multiple paintings in a single studio session. He was like the Hikaru Nakamura of painters.

One of my favourite Yasser moments: