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Should a beginners start with c4?

  • #21

    No.

  • #22
    Fixing_A_Hole wrote:

    Anyone can play anything, the idea that you have to be a certain level to play an opening is stupid.  Playing c4 and g3 is just the traditional English idea: clamp down on d5.  White can play this way whether he's rated 800 or 2800.  

    It`s too sophisticated for beginners; you should know that!

  • #23
    ZebraGang wrote:
    El_Luchador wrote:

    Why are low rated players discussing strategy?

     

    Would you want to take advice from someone who clearly demonstrates their incompetence?

    You're a low rated player too

    Very good point!

  • #24

    I believe that, to even move any of the pawns, you must achieve the rank of 1600 in some official rating format. Before this, you should be required to move the knights so you can think more about strategy and other profound ideas rather than playing a sequence of moves and accomplishing simple and vain tasks like controlling the center. If the system continues as it has been, we will develop chess players that move extremely predictably and robotically, looking only for the most natural and immediately appealing moves. 

  • #25

    Ofgeniuskind wrote:

    C4 cn follow up with D4 To b followed up with e3 to create a good queens pawn position.

    C4 is the English opening, and can lead to many other positions, not just Queen's Gambit declined structure fool.
  • #26

    Ofgeniuskind wrote:

    C4 cn follow up with D4 To b followed up with e3 to create a good queens pawn position.

    The English opening leads to a positional game where there is very little tactical tricks in the opening phase. It's safe, allows you to develop your pieces, and you don't have to be a tactical whiz to play it well. Which is why many beginners favor it, because they are scared of aggressive, sharp, tricky positions.
  • #27
    Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.
  • #28
    dannyhume wrote:
    Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.

    I completely disagree.

  • #29

    1.e4, 1.d4. 1.c4 all fine. Makes no difference

  • #30

    I don't agree.a beginners should start with e4 n play tactical game and then after a lot of improvement then they can switch back to d4.

  • #31

    My impression is that 1 c4 works best for players who know 1 d4 stuff and can take advantage of opportunities to transpose to a d4 game. That said, I think there are books that try to prepare the reader for an independent 1 c4 repertoire. My guess would be that such books would be difficult for a beginner.

  • #32
    sadkid2008 wrote:
    dannyhume wrote:
    Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.

    I completely disagree.

     

    The "beginners-need-to-focus-on-tactics-and-endgames" folks might agree.  Plenty of opening moves keep both players within the draw margin... unless you think 1200 players can routinely convert a 0.6 pawn advantage on move 7 into a full point. 

  • #33

    "... For beginning players, [Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms] will offer an opportunity to start out on the right foot and really get a feel for what is happening on the board. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2006)
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

  • #34

    I'm a beginner and I chose English cz in English you don't have to learn certain traps that you might fall in while playing e4 and others are not much prepared playing against English opening so I preffered that for better results at beginner level tournamentrs ...  

  • #35

    as a white a beginner and GM must play d4, forgetting about experimenting with openings..

    and as a black while to a GM this is still something flexible to a beginner e5 or losing slowly must be the only approach to e4!

  • #36

    FastLikeAJet пишет:

    I seen many kids who played c4 and their rating is just 1200 like that

    FastLikeAJet пишет: I seen many kids who played c4 and their rating is just 1200 like that
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