Should a beginners start with c4?

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Chessflyfisher
ZebraGang wrote:
El_Luchador wrote:

Why are low rated players discussing strategy?

 

Would you want to take advice from someone who clearly demonstrates their incompetence?

You're a low rated player too

Very good point!

sadkid2008

I believe that, to even move any of the pawns, you must achieve the rank of 1600 in some official rating format. Before this, you should be required to move the knights so you can think more about strategy and other profound ideas rather than playing a sequence of moves and accomplishing simple and vain tasks like controlling the center. If the system continues as it has been, we will develop chess players that move extremely predictably and robotically, looking only for the most natural and immediately appealing moves. 

dannyhume
Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.
sadkid2008
dannyhume wrote:
Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.

I completely disagree.

FastLikeAJet

I don't agree.a beginners should start with e4 n play tactical game and then after a lot of improvement then they can switch back to d4.

kindaspongey

My impression is that 1 c4 works best for players who know 1 d4 stuff and can take advantage of opportunities to transpose to a d4 game. That said, I think there are books that try to prepare the reader for an independent 1 c4 repertoire. My guess would be that such books would be difficult for a beginner.

dannyhume
sadkid2008 wrote:
dannyhume wrote:
Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.

I completely disagree.

 

The "beginners-need-to-focus-on-tactics-and-endgames" folks might agree.  Plenty of opening moves keep both players within the draw margin... unless you think 1200 players can routinely convert a 0.6 pawn advantage on move 7 into a full point. 

kindaspongey

"... For beginning players, [Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms] will offer an opportunity to start out on the right foot and really get a feel for what is happening on the board. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

1vishal

I'm a beginner and I chose English cz in English you don't have to learn certain traps that you might fall in while playing e4 and others are not much prepared playing against English opening so I preffered that for better results at beginner level tournamentrs ...  

Stepanov56

FastLikeAJet пишет:

I seen many kids who played c4 and their rating is just 1200 like that

FastLikeAJet пишет: I seen many kids who played c4 and their rating is just 1200 like that

sadkid2008
dannyhume wrote:
sadkid2008 wrote:
dannyhume wrote:
Sinc openings don’t matter for beginners, you can start with any move you like.

I completely disagree.

 

The "beginners-need-to-focus-on-tactics-and-endgames" folks might agree.  Plenty of opening moves keep both players within the draw margin... unless you think 1200 players can routinely convert a 0.6 pawn advantage on move 7 into a full point. 

They are completely wrong