You could consider that K+R versus K+R scored as a win against the flagged player who loses - is absurd even though it has helpmates.
Its essentially a drawn position.
How many types of position where flagging loses that are actually draws - are there?
Queen versus queen is usually a draw.
Many pawnless endings are a draw.
Queen plus knight versus Queen plus knight should be a draw but it could be easy for one side to blunder.
In some over the board tournaments USCF had a rule they may still have that if one player wants a draw to be adjudicated in a simplified position then the tournament director is to form an opinion as to whether a master could swindle a C player in the position and if he thinks the master might be able to do so then no draw.
Maybe FIDE has a similiar rule.
But you can't have something like that in an online chess site.
The computers just have to decide instantly.
And in some cases the players have to agree.
And absurdly - the computer won't give a draw in K+R verus K+R.
Isn't it reasonable to suppose that USCF and FIDE must both have a rule that either player can claim a draw there?
I've encountered some situations on chess.com where I pressed a draw button and the draw was instantaneous. Years ago.
Had the impression the computer did it. But wasn't sure.
That's called insufficient losing chances. Not sure if FIDE has a similar rule but unlikely as it already has the "any possibility of checkmate rule", but you can argue that if a position is really dead drawn like KRKR, then both players should have no trouble holding the position even with 1 second on the clock. In other words they shouldn't flag in the first place. Not sure where they got "Master vs Class C" judgement decision from, sounds arbitrary. Maybe something like "against someone 1000 points higher" would make more sense IDK.
USCF No longer has insufficient losing chances either.
They have abolished it within the last 5 years. Now, if they are using an analog clock, tough luck. The assumption is that nobody will use an analog any more. You cannot use ILC with any clock that has a delay feature or an increment feature.
You could consider that K+R versus K+R scored as a win against the flagged player who loses - is absurd even though it has helpmates.
Its essentially a drawn position.
How many types of position where flagging loses that are actually draws - are there?
Queen versus queen is usually a draw.
Many pawnless endings are a draw.
Queen plus knight versus Queen plus knight should be a draw but it could be easy for one side to blunder.
In some over the board tournaments USCF had a rule they may still have that if one player wants a draw to be adjudicated in a simplified position then the tournament director is to form an opinion as to whether a master could swindle a C player in the position and if he thinks the master might be able to do so then no draw.
Maybe FIDE has a similiar rule.
But you can't have something like that in an online chess site.
The computers just have to decide instantly.
And in some cases the players have to agree.
And absurdly - the computer won't give a draw in K+R verus K+R.
Isn't it reasonable to suppose that USCF and FIDE must both have a rule that either player can claim a draw there?
I've encountered some situations on chess.com where I pressed a draw button and the draw was instantaneous. Years ago.
Had the impression the computer did it. But wasn't sure.
That's called insufficient losing chances. Not sure if FIDE has a similar rule but unlikely as it already has the "any possibility of checkmate rule", but you can argue that if a position is really dead drawn like KRKR, then both players should have no trouble holding the position even with 1 second on the clock. In other words they shouldn't flag in the first place. Not sure where they got "Master vs Class C" judgement decision from, sounds arbitrary. Maybe something like "against someone 1000 points higher" would make more sense IDK.