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chasm1995

With intent to use negative connotation:

"Nerd."

"Loser."

"Dweeb."

"You must be stupid, because it takes you a long time to move the thingys."

ThrillerFan

What's worse is when you have to deal with this EVERY WEEK!

Some beginner came to the Charlotte area, and has since been at both clubs.  I mostly just play in one of them, but was at the other as well the past few weeks.  Over the past few weeks, I have been going thru a few games within books.  A few that I can recall are Game 9 from "1...d6 - Move by Move", Game 3 from "My Great Predecessors - Part II", and the 3 games from the intro to Chapter 6 in "Grandmaster Preparation: Calculation".

So picture this:  You are at a club that plays 1 rated game each week (both clubs in Charlotte do this).  The game starts at 7:30 in one club, 7:45 at the other.  You get there around 6 to 6:30 because you work near the club, and home is far away, so you go straight there.  You are trying to study a game, or solve difficult problems, or whatever else, and every move you ever make on the board is:

"So why that move?" -- Again and again and again, move after move after move

Then it gets worse, let's say you are going thru a sideline that's not extremely deep, but deep enough that you need to put in thought trying to visualize it without actually making the moves.  Ok, now during that time, this same guy is doing nothing but asking generic chess questions, one after a-freaking-nother.  The guy just won't shut up!  I'm not studying books meant for 1000 players.  Why do I need to sit there an explain one thing after another to a beginner?  Some weeks I don't study before the game, just there to relax, maybe eat, then I'll answer those things, but nothing is more annoying than trying to study and having some nobody play 20 Questions at ya!

RomyGer

Whether the following men play chess or not,I don't know,but they said :

Chess is ludicrously difficult ( Stephen Fry )

Chess is one long regret ( Stephen Leacock )

Chess is a sad waste of brains ( Sir Walter Scott )

Chess is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence ( Raymond Chandler )

Chess is not a game but a disease ( Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman )

Chess is one of the sins of pride ( John Bromyard )

Chess is a game of courteous aggression ( Julian Barnes )

Chess is a game of skill and not of genius ( William Hazlitt )

Chess is both profoundly trivial and trivially profound ( George Steiner )

Chess is a game of bad moves ( Andy Soltis )

TheBigDecline

"Whoa dude, you have a four-digit rating, you must be like, I dunno, a Grandmaster or something!"

NimzoRoy
RomyGer wrote:

Whether the following men play chess or not,I don't know,but they said :

“Chess is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence as you can find outside an advertising agency.”

( Raymond Chandler ) His famous detective Philip Marlowe played chess, so I presume Chandler knew how to play and was being facetious

Chess is a game of bad moves (US GRANDMASTER Andy Soltis )  

 

Knightly_News
kiwi_overtherainbow wrote:

"Hurry up and make your move, you take forever."  lol

I noticed novices and beginners tend to be impatient and lack the concept of tactics.  

I've play a lot of blitz chess and I think many players should move faster, and only regret my decision to think that if they win :-)  

chasm1995

Why if they win?

Knightly_News
chasm1995 wrote:

Why if they win?

uh oh spaghettio

Likhit1
reflectivist wrote:
chasm1995 wrote:

Why if they win?

If they win, then they obviously took the time because they knew what they were doing and did something better than I did in my haste.  Therefore it may have been incumbent upon me to slow down a bit rather than for them to speed up.

If they lose and they were slow at the same time, then they wasted everyone's time, and I don't have time for those losers :-)

But seriously, I don't know if you've played blitz, and particularly many games in an evening, but when you see someone taking or three minutes to make what you know is going to be a dumb move that's probably going to lose them a piece, in a way that was easily avoidable, it's kind of hard to not avoid tapping your foot and rolling your eyes while waiting.

It is generally good in blitz to take ur time once in the game to understnd what u wanna do so that u can play ur next few moves fast.Ive often found good tactical shots by taking my time in blitz too.

Knightly_News
Likhit1 wrote:
reflectivist wrote:
chasm1995 wrote:

Why if they win?

If they win, then they obviously took the time because they knew what they were doing and did something better than I did in my haste.  Therefore it may have been incumbent upon me to slow down a bit rather than for them to speed up.

If they lose and they were slow at the same time, then they wasted everyone's time, and I don't have time for those losers :-)

But seriously, I don't know if you've played blitz, and particularly many games in an evening, but when you see someone taking or three minutes to make what you know is going to be a dumb move that's probably going to lose them a piece, in a way that was easily avoidable, it's kind of hard to not avoid tapping your foot and rolling your eyes while waiting.

It is generally good in blitz to take ur time once in the game to understnd what u wanna do so that u can play ur next few moves fast.Ive often found good tactical shots by taking my time in blitz too.

Not like I can't use some tips from an 1800+ blitz player.  You obviously have some insights/skills I don't (yet).  I'll keep that in mind.  

There's an old expression I've heard "The hurrier I go, the behinder I get." But there's another expression I've heard "He who hesitates is lost".

I understand the value of taking my time (usually) and find it does help avoid pitfalls, but I didn't consider it in the context of how it might speed up my next n moves. I'll have to work on that and see how my game improves. 

Anything else you consider valuable particularly for blitz that I might want to focus on to improve?  I'm still trying to understand what accounts for my variability.  Some days I can lose many games in a row, but the other week, I won 12 games in a row (not counting one draw), including players at or above my level.  I wish I knew what was going on there and how to induce it regularly :-)  I do think those are the days I'm more calm and patient, and the ideas flow cleanly through a solid focused conduit.

TheBigDecline

"Houdini, eh? Yeah, I bet even my nephew could beat it. He's fairly good at Chess, y'know?"

Likhit1
reflectivist wrote:
Likhit1 wrote:
reflectivist wrote:
chasm1995 wrote:

Why if they win?

If they win, then they obviously took the time because they knew what they were doing and did something better than I did in my haste.  Therefore it may have been incumbent upon me to slow down a bit rather than for them to speed up.

If they lose and they were slow at the same time, then they wasted everyone's time, and I don't have time for those losers :-)

But seriously, I don't know if you've played blitz, and particularly many games in an evening, but when you see someone taking or three minutes to make what you know is going to be a dumb move that's probably going to lose them a piece, in a way that was easily avoidable, it's kind of hard to not avoid tapping your foot and rolling your eyes while waiting.

It is generally good in blitz to take ur time once in the game to understnd what u wanna do so that u can play ur next few moves fast.Ive often found good tactical shots by taking my time in blitz too.

Not like I can't use some tips from an 1800+ blitz player.  You obviously have some insights/skills I don't (yet).  I'll keep that in mind.  

There's an old expression I've heard "The hurrier I go, the behinder I get." But there's another expression I've heard "He who hesitates is lost".

I understand the value of taking my time (usually) and find it does help avoid pitfalls, but I didn't consider it in the context of how it might speed up my next n moves. I'll have to work on that and see how my game improves. 

Anything else you consider valuable particularly for blitz that I might want to focus on to improve?  I'm still trying to understand what accounts for my variability.  Some days I can lose many games in a row, but the other week, I won 12 games in a row (not counting one draw), including players at or above my level.  I wish I knew what was going on there and how to induce it regularly :-)  I do think those are the days I'm more calm and patient, and the ideas flow cleanly through a solid focused conduit.

Winning 12 games in a row,losing 20 games in a row,it is common,dont worry.happens to everybody in blitz.What i meant by taking your time was that u need to try to understan the position and what ur ideas are so that you can play ur next few moves without much thought and they usually r better than automatic moves.(this is how i play,im not claiming this to be the best method).Another thing is try out new openings,thats the joy of blitz,u can play almost any opening without knowing too much theory.

dragonair234
TheBigDecline wrote:

"Whoa dude, you have a four-digit rating, you must be like, I dunno, a Grandmaster or something!"

tahahaha this one's funny >:]

RomyGer

Thanks, NimzoRoy for post 25, I had left the advertising agency out and now the sentence is not right anymore :  as ... as ... sorry ..

And yes, I know Andy Soltis ...

EvanKimes

"chess is just complicated cheker "

atarw

the mods changed the title of the thread

varelse1

The best way top win in chess is to try to get the other guy's queen! You do that, the game is pretty much over, usually.

chasm1995

"why didn't you eat his pieces?"

"Why can't you jump his pieces, like checkers?"

dragonair234

DaBigOne wrote:

the mods changed the title of the thread.

Uh yeah' I thought they would do that. It was worth a try. It's their job. Not like they have something better to do (;

dragonair234

chasm1995 wrote:

"why didn't you eat his pieces?"

"Why can't you jump his pieces, like checkers?"

Hahaha, it's my pet peeve when non chess players say "eat pieces". It sounds so elementary haha...