Very well put Rael!!
Sick to the teeth of ignorant players
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I resign when I feel there's no hope.
But I don't understand what the big issue is if an opponent chooses to continue.
I generally dont even notice, I pay attention to games thet display MY MOVE. Eventually his time will run out, or he will move and I can continue to play for the simple win. If it takes a lot of time and energy to win this won game, maybe it's not as won as you think, and your opponent is justified in playing on.
And Rael, I hear what you say, but that statement should only ne used if you sincerely believe that your opponent does not know that you won't mind him resigning. Personally, I would be a little offended by any demand, suggestion or hint, and I would play on just that little bit longer.
rooperi wrote:
And Rael, I hear what you say, but that statement should only ne used if you sincerely believe that your opponent does not know that you won't mind him resigning. Personally, I would be a little offended by any demand, suggestion or hint, and I would play on just that little bit longer.
For sure - and I've done the "spite prolong" back in the day too, haha. That phrase banks on the idea that there isn't any genuine antagonism between you and your opponent. I remember being able to get all heated about my opponents once too, it doesn't really happen anymore, but once this guy accepted 2 of my open seeks and then played my own moves back at me and I got all incensed - I ended up winning both games (I stalled on one and deliberately followed another line in the other) so it was ultimately a good experience.
I think it's interesting that chess has the capacity to get us so heated as that tempers can really fly, eh?
Like - at the end of the day it's this glorious boardgame, we amazingly inscribe so much ego and energy into it - invest the very stake of the idea that we're intelligent or smart on the "winning" of it, right? Haha, it's so wonderful.
I think that it's beautiful that so many emotions can become a part of the game. I think it's kindof fantastic that people can even become so frustrated over the idea of an opponent resigning.
What love... what love...
True, it takes all kinds.
I have a friend on here, I think I was his 1st rated opponent. Now he's in the top 100 on this site. But he still challenges me for games, and crushes me. (I think he's leading about 28½-½, my ½ came when I convinced hime he should reply to 1e4 with 1... b5)
Point is. he never asks me to resign, even though he's almost 1000 above me. He even once offered me a draw when I had an obvous mouse slip, I declined, of course...
rooperi wrote:
True, it takes all kinds.
I have a friend on here, I think I was his 1st rated opponent. Now he's in the top 100 on this site. But he still challenges me for games, and crushes me. (I think he's leading about 28½-½, my ½ came when I convinced hime he should reply to 1e4 with 1... b5)
Point is. he never asks me to resign, even though he's almost 1000 above me. He even once offered me a draw when I had an obvous mouse slip, I declined, of course...
That rules. Come here for the chess, stay for the epic friendships, eh?
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tones wrote:
I have been asked yet again to resign by an opponent rated 400pts higher than me, i know im struggling in the games but do I not have the right to finish the games by forcing him to checkmate me? Yes im losing the games but I don't think that gives him the right to tell me it's painful watching me play. I am still learning the bloody game and trying to improve. I recently played a guy rated 2400 who complimented me and gave me tips on how to improve which I greatly appreciated. He knew he was going to win the games but yet didnt feel the need to criticize. Its basic manners I suppose. I don't give up games easily and don't expect others to do so either.
basic manners : stop whining,and try to learn the game,without whining
You could follow your own advice about learning the game mate
On the other hand, sometimes I think beginners don't understand that there is no dishonor in resigning a hopeless position. There have been times when I've pointed this out to people who seemed surprised by that information.
You're absolutely right - once I was frustrated with a person who didn't resign and I opened up a friendly dialogue with them and found out that they thought that resigning meant denying me the "pleasure of the mate", which is awesome - they maintained play so as to not cost ME something. Perspective is really everything.
I read in one of these threads once, and tried it myself (and it worked), that the most gracious way to bring this up with your opponent, if you are honestly eager for them to resign is to type:
"You know - there would be no dishonor in resigning at this point"
I think it's elegant and polite - it's an invitation and not really all that rude, it communicates that you understand the game is effectively won or what not. I know it's not a kindof magic bullet as it were, but I've only had positive responses when I've mentioned this (at the right time - HAH can you imagine starting a game off with that? 1. e4... "You know there is no dishonor..." lol)
I go back and forth and around on the whole resigining issue anyways. There are times when a mate is so aesthetically delicious as it's a shame when it doesn't get to complete - the win aside I want to see the pieces softly slide into place and the fateful conjunction of elements come into being - other endgames are as dry as a skeleton in a desert boring and you want to be rid of it.
My general principle is always friendliness - I rarely play games wherein I'm not communicating with my opponents. Congeniality is reciprocal - send kindness out and receive it in turn. Problems cannot arise in lieu of good communication - be friendly, have fun, raise a quixical eyebrow to the jerks that cross your path and pay them no more mind. Frustration is a build up of anxious energy - I do hope that posting the thread helped rid you of yours.