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long_quach wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
long_quach wrote:

You teach me something.

Knights in chaturanga can move normally like modern chess -_-

That is what you taught me?

"Knights in chaturanga can move normally like modern chess -_-"


What will you teach me next?

"The board in Chaturanga is the same board in modern chess." (except for the coloring).

Give me 10 reasons why should i teach you because i havent seen a reason why teaching you is as important as a futuristic Ielts student

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long_quach wrote:
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llama_l wrote:
 

You're still distracted by the form of the pieces. The point is the abstract realm i.e. the game that the rules themselves create. Everything we know about the gameplay of chess exists even if physical boards and pieces don't exist.

That is what Chinese chess is!

It's just a round disk with the names of the piece written on it.

It has no forms.

I did think to donate this Chinese chess set to a Vietnamese shopping center near me, but I decided against it. Because it is against the no-form idea of Chinese chess.

They wont even accept it as they could take reasons as: something that u put could be in the Xiangqi. Maybe donate it to a smaller store, that will do a trick.

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long_quach wrote:

@VerifiedChessYarshe

Stupid.

You're not just teaching me, you're also teaching everybody else.

Achievement reached:

Rage back to sender.

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long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
llama_l wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:

If u can answer these questions answer it below!

Anthropomorphising pieces makes no sense. The purpose of a game's rules is to create something interesting to play. That is all.

That concept has already been thought of.

It is the Bauhaus chess set.

The concept is bad.

In the movie Blade, the vampire's history is written in blood, human blood.

So is our own history. It is also written in blood.

That is where chess came from.

I swear dude these people havent even watched matrix to even demonstrate how real this movie is. Or maybe matrix is endless (as u are stuck in a system). This generation needs to know what is reality and movie's difference

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long_quach wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:

In xiangqi Knights are called horses in xiangqi. It has no one to represent or ride it. So the horses can't jump over pieces. Knights in chess however doesn't have the rider and can jump over pieces unlike xiangqi.

Knights are called horses in Chinese chess. It is implied that there is a rider.

Just like Elephant. Comes with a rider.

Just like Chariots, comes with a Ben Hur action figure. Each sold separately.


The reason why "horses" can be blocked in Chinese chess is because the Chinese are geniuses.

It comes with their thinking. Things and their opposite. Ying and Yang.

Horse being blocked on the adjacent orthogonal. Open and close. You can get in, but you can't get out.

Chariots (Rooks) and Cannons, direct and indirect.

Pawns after crossing the river, connect and disconnect.

Generals in their castle/capital, stationary and moving.

Elephants cannot cross the river, offense and defense.


You are calquing badly from Vietnamese. You are speaking gibberish. But my guess is you still speak gibberish even in Vietnamese.

1. Elephants in chaturanga (where the line that splits 2 sides is just a border. Thats land.) It make sense why elephants in xiangqi cant cross over the border (which is represented as a river).

2. There maybe still holes like how to calculate the square area of the circle where it needs D x PI. But if all knights have riders, doesnt that mean chess that can go in and can go out but in xiangqi = go in + cant go out? This is what i am trying to get an answer. But pulling these movies or fictional stuffs isnt promising. I wanna know the reality which doesnt include fictions.

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Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
 

1. Well, depends on the region you live in, here, in my locality, 2. we call bishops as either camel, or a minister. 3. And we also call rooks as Elephants, 4. and we call knights as horse. I apologize for not mentioning it, but you should clearly not refer 5. wrong websites or sources, they ruin your knowledge you know

1. We are not talking localities.

localities = place

We are talking about time. Time beyond your imagination. Thousands of years.

2. Elephants are synonymous with India. When are camels part of regular military unit in Indian warfare?

Calling the Bishop a Minister is calling the Elephant a Bishop. Which they do in Chinese chess. One side is Elephant 象, the other side is Minister 相.

3. The Rook is the fastest piece. It is a chariot. Watch Ben Hur. Elephants are not that fast. The bigger you are, the slower you are. Just because you call a Rook an Elephant does not mean you call it correctly.

Remember, the Elephant moves 2 squares diagonally, still does in Chinese chess.

4. It's also in Chinese. 馬. It is also in English, "horseman". Also in French, "cavalry".

5. One of us is wrong, and it is not me.

Dude, look, If you don't know are gonna integrate chinese chess, Let me just say, i don't know a damn thing about chinese chess. I only spoke about Indian chess. AND Yes, there was a usage of camel cavalry, mainly in the dessert region. And though some ministers didn't take part in war, some used to, and still, ministers used to play a major role in deciding the war techniques and making a plan along side kings, and if necessary, they also used to battle.

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long_quach wrote:

I was playing Chinese chess in a Phở restaurant, in a Vietnamese shopping mall, in America.

I captured a piece with my Knight.

He put me in check.

I retreat the Knight to block the check.

The guy told me i could not retreat the Knight, it was blocked on the adjacent orthogonal!

I would have won. I played Western chess for so long, I forgot that rule.


That is why the Chinese are so damned genius.

They invented the concept of you can get in but you can't get out on the chess board.

So genius.

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence. Let me just say you something, Intelligence is something that comes from the way your brain processes stuff, and genes have no goddamn thing to do with it! Not all chinese are 'Genius'. Infact, I bet any part of the world could have geniuses. Its just the way your brain recognizes patterns and tries to process complex stuff and succeeds! Studies show that genes have not a single thing to do with the IQ!

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long_quach wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:

2. There maybe still holes like how to calculate the square area of the circle where it needs D x PI. But if all knights have riders, doesnt that mean chess that can go in and can go out but in xiangqi = go in + cant go out? This is what i am trying to get an answer. But pulling these movies or fictional stuffs isnt promising. I wanna know the reality which doesnt include fictions.

There you go with your gibberish as I predicted.

You can go in the mud, you can't go out.

A coin goes into a slot machine, it can't go out.

In fighting, your neck goes into a guillotine, it can't go out.

In real war, you can go into Stalingrad, you can't go out.


There are innumerable situations in life that you can go in, but you can't go out.

U dont even understand the concept of xiangqi and chess. I think its better to let ur opinions be rather than changing it. But still, with all those points, some of them are tightly guarded and some of them needs light guard to guard the knight.

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This is very obviously a troll post lol

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Ian-George wrote:

This thread has educated me more than my 4th grade teacher ever did.

Appreciated. Hope that ur teacher teaches more.

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Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
long_quach wrote:

I was playing Chinese chess in a Phở restaurant, in a Vietnamese shopping mall, in America.

I captured a piece with my Knight.

He put me in check.

I retreat the Knight to block the check.

The guy told me i could not retreat the Knight, it was blocked on the adjacent orthogonal!

I would have won. I played Western chess for so long, I forgot that rule.


That is why the Chinese are so damned genius.

They invented the concept of you can get in but you can't get out on the chess board.

So genius.

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence. Let me just say you something, Intelligence is something that comes from the way your brain processes stuff, and genes have no goddamn thing to do with it! Not all chinese are 'Genius'. Infact, I bet any part of the world could have geniuses. Its just the way your brain recognizes patterns and tries to process complex stuff and succeeds! Studies show that genes have not a single thing to do with the IQ!

I agree. And even the fact that ur iq only increases until u reached a point where all patterns are familliar with you. Ur iq doesn't change anymore from that point, the only thing that changes ur iq while playing chess is if u stop playing = ur iq gone lower or keep playing and ur iq is the same. Overall chess trains us patterns, but once completed all those, the iq stays the same. Wanna increase iq? Learn maths. Thats better. Even some geniuses that only needs maths and never did play chess. If he is a genius while playing xiangqi, thats xiangqi verse. Just ask him what is the result of 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+.... the result maybe infinite but some even say -1/12. He will just say infinite for sure, but if he did say infinite he would not know the other result. The only rubbish thing is what u say.

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VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
long_quach wrote:

I was playing Chinese chess in a Phở restaurant, in a Vietnamese shopping mall, in America.

I captured a piece with my Knight.

He put me in check.

I retreat the Knight to block the check.

The guy told me i could not retreat the Knight, it was blocked on the adjacent orthogonal!

I would have won. I played Western chess for so long, I forgot that rule.


That is why the Chinese are so damned genius.

They invented the concept of you can get in but you can't get out on the chess board.

So genius.

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence. Let me just say you something, Intelligence is something that comes from the way your brain processes stuff, and genes have no goddamn thing to do with it! Not all chinese are 'Genius'. Infact, I bet any part of the world could have geniuses. Its just the way your brain recognizes patterns and tries to process complex stuff and succeeds! Studies show that genes have not a single thing to do with the IQ!

I agree. And even the fact that ur iq only increases until u reached a point where all patterns are familliar with you. Ur iq doesn't change anymore from that point, the only thing that changes ur iq while playing chess is if u stop playing = ur iq gone lower or keep playing and ur iq is the same. Overall chess trains us patterns, but once completed all those, the iq stays the same. Wanna increase iq? Learn maths. Thats better. Even some geniuses that only needs maths and never did play chess. If he is a genius while playing xiangqi, thats xiangqi verse. Just ask him what is the result of 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+.... the result maybe infinite but some even say 1/12. He will just say infinite for sure, but if he did say infinite he would not know the other result.

The answer is -1/12 right? I bet I could solve this question and prove the answer to be -1/12

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Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
long_quach wrote:

I was playing Chinese chess in a Phở restaurant, in a Vietnamese shopping mall, in America.

I captured a piece with my Knight.

He put me in check.

I retreat the Knight to block the check.

The guy told me i could not retreat the Knight, it was blocked on the adjacent orthogonal!

I would have won. I played Western chess for so long, I forgot that rule.


That is why the Chinese are so damned genius.

They invented the concept of you can get in but you can't get out on the chess board.

So genius.

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence. Let me just say you something, Intelligence is something that comes from the way your brain processes stuff, and genes have no goddamn thing to do with it! Not all chinese are 'Genius'. Infact, I bet any part of the world could have geniuses. Its just the way your brain recognizes patterns and tries to process complex stuff and succeeds! Studies show that genes have not a single thing to do with the IQ!

I agree. And even the fact that ur iq only increases until u reached a point where all patterns are familliar with you. Ur iq doesn't change anymore from that point, the only thing that changes ur iq while playing chess is if u stop playing = ur iq gone lower or keep playing and ur iq is the same. Overall chess trains us patterns, but once completed all those, the iq stays the same. Wanna increase iq? Learn maths. Thats better. Even some geniuses that only needs maths and never did play chess. If he is a genius while playing xiangqi, thats xiangqi verse. Just ask him what is the result of 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+.... the result maybe infinite but some even say 1/12. He will just say infinite for sure, but if he did say infinite he would not know the other result.

The answer is -1/12 right? I bet I could solve this question and prove the answer to be -1/12

Im replying to longquach (so u not get misunderstand)

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VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
long_quach wrote:

I was playing Chinese chess in a Phở restaurant, in a Vietnamese shopping mall, in America.

I captured a piece with my Knight.

He put me in check.

I retreat the Knight to block the check.

The guy told me i could not retreat the Knight, it was blocked on the adjacent orthogonal!

I would have won. I played Western chess for so long, I forgot that rule.


That is why the Chinese are so damned genius.

They invented the concept of you can get in but you can't get out on the chess board.

So genius.

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence. Let me just say you something, Intelligence is something that comes from the way your brain processes stuff, and genes have no goddamn thing to do with it! Not all chinese are 'Genius'. Infact, I bet any part of the world could have geniuses. Its just the way your brain recognizes patterns and tries to process complex stuff and succeeds! Studies show that genes have not a single thing to do with the IQ!

I agree. And even the fact that ur iq only increases until u reached a point where all patterns are familliar with you. Ur iq doesn't change anymore from that point, the only thing that changes ur iq while playing chess is if u stop playing = ur iq gone lower or keep playing and ur iq is the same. Overall chess trains us patterns, but once completed all those, the iq stays the same. Wanna increase iq? Learn maths. Thats better. Even some geniuses that only needs maths and never did play chess. If he is a genius while playing xiangqi, thats xiangqi verse. Just ask him what is the result of 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+.... the result maybe infinite but some even say 1/12. He will just say infinite for sure, but if he did say infinite he would not know the other result.

The answer is -1/12 right? I bet I could solve this question and prove the answer to be -1/12

Im replying to longquach (so u not get misunderstand)

Ah okay

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long_quach wrote:
Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence.

1. China is keeps Hinduism alive in Buddhism.

While India is not.

2. Where can you play street chess in Delhi? Nowhere.

While you can find street chess in China and Vietnam.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/street-chess-in-delhi#comment-98853285

Hinduism is known for it's hierachy and racism. Thats why the Indian government being one of the most racist countries. People rather choose Buddism as equal. Everything u did will come to you. If u do something bad, it will come to you as an interest. If u make some good stuffs, u get a good profit. It is okay for your country and China to keeping alive these racial problems.

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long_quach wrote:
Prajwal_Bharadwaj wrote:
 

Dude, I feel you are obsessed with chinese or something, every time, you just appreciate their intelligence.

3. Western chess took over chess. Chaturanga is extinct. Gone, like the dinosaurs, bye bye.

-Chaturanga is the chess that our ancestors buff the chess that make us play chess in a fun way and more competitive and not boring. Chess.com still has Chaturanga. U should say Chess is "Updated Chaturanga"


Chinese chess kept the genes of Chaturanga.

The genes of Chaturanga that are no longer in Western chess but in Chinese chess.

The concept of Chinese chess is earlier than Chaturanga itself. Chess that u play right now got updated in the 12th century by Italians. The westerns copied the concept, but then updated and has more flexibility. It is easy to spot patterns than Xiangqi, espcially Xiangqi got cannons or "Pháo" which makes it more complex. Thats why Chinese chess concept was irrelavant and making chess a better board game. Chinese chess isnt keeping Chaturanga alive, Chaturanga itself is keeping it alive.

1. Radial symmetry.

2. Elephants. The name itself. They call their Chinese chess 象棋 Elephant game.

3. The move of the Elephant (Bishop). 2 squares diagonally.

3. The Vizier, the name. The Advisor.

4. The Vizier (Queen), the move, 1 square diagonally.

5. No 2 steps pawn, no en passant.

6. No castling.

7. No pawn promotion.

8. Stalemate is a win.

9. (Maybe) no repetition of moves

10. The name of the game 象棋 Elephant Game to point to India. The names in all over languages mean The Game of the King.

11. Chariot the name. (Rook).

12. They even draw a picture.

Elephant. 4 legs, 1 tail, 2 big ears, and a trunk.

Chariot. 2 wheels, an axle, and a box.


There are 30,000 Sanskrit words calqued into Chinese.


China keeps the memory of India alive.

Not all pieces move like xiangqi all the time. There isnt cannon or "pháo" like xiangqi. And instead of pawns eat pieces straight they eat diagonally like normal chess.

You stupid.

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Sad to see u bringing a topic that relates about ur country's racism lol

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long_quach wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
. . . pawn. Or "chot" in vietnamese.

. . .and pull out a literall chinese dictionary as if it was your class.

That's "chốt" in Vietnamese.

And you should learn Chinese. That's the root of Vietnamese.

"chốt" is only half correct. chốt = 卒.

On the red side, it's "binh" = 兵.

Learn some Chinese, like the Japanese do, so you don't have to be stupid.

Unlike Japanese, the today's vietnamese language is based on latin alphabets. People only choose Chinese and created their own language because they have to find a way to make the alphabets to be easy to learn, and in the past Chinese was in top 1, now? I rather do ielts than getting spied on every second by AI chinese algorithms unlike ur ambitious ideas that only feeds for matrix purposes.

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long_quach wrote:
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
. . . pawn. Or "chot" in vietnamese.

. . .and pull out a literall chinese dictionary as if it was your class.

That's "chốt" in Vietnamese.

And you should learn Chinese. That's the root of Vietnamese.

"chốt" is only half correct. chốt = 卒.

On the red side, it's "binh" = 兵.

Learn some Chinese, like the Japanese do, so you don't have to be stupid.

Unlike your careless points, my feelings can decide whatever language to learn, so there isnt a thing called "the easiest language to learn". My billions of neurons can shift the rank on my own, but the United Nations and you dont have the resources to understand enough about it, so ur careless about that. U can always argue about "Google is always right" while the hardest languages would be the Arabs and Russian while google says "it's on top 20".

Just shows how embarrasing for you to interrogate my understandings. Even if you ever asked the UN and the soviet KGB to spy on me every second, u wont even understand the feelings i got in the brain. So lame to say to me about learning mandarin while my brain says to me "it's one of the hardest languages to learn". No matter which side you choose, either Democracy or Republic, ur vote and opinions just count just as other's votes, and its ironic to criticize your opinion. But in this situation its ironic to tell somebody to learn a language in a country that only existed from the last 20th century to the 21st century (which the today's vietnamese language already existed).