I surveyed 12 of my casual friends on this question. 7 did not know how to play chess. 3 said why change chess? 2 said "what is stalemate?"
Stalemate needs to be abolished...

Clearly this matter should be put to a formal vote of all FIDE members. I for one will be voting to abolish in the interest of the future of the game. Seriously, try and explain this rule to a new player and they will laugh it you. It's a wonder why this silliness has continued for so long.

My friends were a bit dumbfounded ( though interested in vacationing in Hungary ! )
Then I got sidetracked & looked at chess. This game ( irrelevant to stalemate ) caught my attention :

I surveyed 12 of my casual friends on this question. 7 did not know how to play chess. 3 said why change chess? 2 said "what is stalemate?"
Well, I can imagine you only have casual friends, no close friends because you sound a bit daft. I asked my friends who are casual chess players. It is important to get their opinion because if it wasn't for ridiculous rules such as the stalemate and en passant they might be avid players instead of casual. Then we could grow our chess playing community. With these counter intuitive ancient rules still in effect it's clear to see chess will stagnate and die.

Mathematically there are only so many moves that can be made all be it many! Stalemate is a quirk in the game not design. To change this you would have to change the structure of the whole game. It is true you can take advantage of this quirk.So that alone makes it part of the game. There is only one way to win and two ways to draw.

Stalelemate discussion is over guys ! ( been done to death. ) Pay attention to expert-chess-players new comments if you like but unlikely anything new will be added ? ( please read entire topic first )

Who cares what the experts think. They are a fraction of one percent of chess players. If a change can be made that will benefit the enitre world of chess and the other over ninty nine percent of players I say lets do it.

No, netzach, let's hear the Pizza out, the dialect is so familiar
Familiar true. Almost monstrous in it's familiarity :)
If I seek to learn something am not going to ask a baby that has jsut learned to talk but knows nothing else.
More probable listen to an expert & try to learn something.

Anyway! Netzach, Why did you patronise my remark so?
Whats your take on the subject?
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Stevie, there are topics on everything here. I dislike having to wade through the banal idiotic posts to reach the chess-content ? ( in some threads.. )
If I am correct, it is your play that does not let them move anywhere. Practicing common and not-so-common endgame checkmates (1 queen, 1-2 rooks, bishop and knight, etc.) can help you avoid stalemates. I know several checkmates very well, and, even if it takes me a little longer to mate them, I haven't stalemated anyone OTB in months.