Struggling to achieve 1800 rating.

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aggressivesociopath
 

 Same game, you get the point, but do you?

Cherub_Enjel

@swagmeister: Don't listen to those people who are just jealous of your nice rating (notice how they're all rated lower than 1700). You are indeed 1700, and to break 1800 is nothing but easy.

Remember, blitz ratings on this site are very underrated at the class player level! So indeed your 1400 rating could very well be 1700 OTB rating, especially if you're bad at blitz/speed chess, which no one cares that much about anyways. 

 

You might even be able to be world champion soon - it's just one step at a time.

 

IMBacon22
Cherub_Enjel wrote:

@swagmeister: Don't listen to those people who are just jealous of your nice rating (notice how they're all rated lower than 1700). You are indeed 1700, and to break 1800 is nothing but easy.

Remember, blitz ratings on this site are very underrated at the class player level! So indeed your 1400 rating could very well be 1700 OTB rating, especially if you're bad at blitz/speed chess, which no one cares that much about anyways. 

 

You might even be able to be world champion soon - it's just one step at a time.

 

For the most part the OP is getting some sound advice, and is getting what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear.  I dont align with this "make everyone feel good" mentality.  If you cant handle being told the truth, then dont ask. 

Swagmeister123

Cherub_Enjel wrote:

@swagmeister: Don't listen to those people who are just jealous of your nice rating (notice how they're all rated lower than 1700). You are indeed 1700, and to break 1800 is nothing but easy.

Remember, blitz ratings on this site are very underrated at the class player level! So indeed your 1400 rating could very well be 1700 OTB rating, especially if you're bad at blitz/speed chess, which no one cares that much about anyways. 

 

You might even be able to be world champion soon - it's just one step at a time.

 

thanks for kind words lol idk about world champion maybe expert or something but thanks

DjonniDerevnja

To get  a lot rating, give it away.  A problem when hunting for rating is that it can take away risky playing. I f you take a lot of risk you can win and lose a lot. Get into deep trouble and fight through it. Playing risky is fun, but it costs rating. Playing too safe won't teach you so much. When this is said , playing supersafe is also a kind of important training.

Dont care about rating, dont care if you win or lose, just play, and play hard. Hard play makes you strong.

Swagmeister123

IMBacon wrote:

Cherub_Enjel wrote:

@swagmeister: Don't listen to those people who are just jealous of your nice rating (notice how they're all rated lower than 1700). You are indeed 1700, and to break 1800 is nothing but easy.

Remember, blitz ratings on this site are very underrated at the class player level! So indeed your 1400 rating could very well be 1700 OTB rating, especially if you're bad at blitz/speed chess, which no one cares that much about anyways. 

 

You might even be able to be world champion soon - it's just one step at a time.

 

For the most part the OP is getting some sound advice, and is getting what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear.  I dont align with this "make everyone feel good" mentality.  If you cant handle being told the truth, then dont ask. 

man really disappointed at this thread, most of these replies are horrible. wish id never started it. absolutedly surprised at the bitter chess community here on these forums.

Swagmeister123

aggressivesociopath wrote:


 That was a blitz game, but it shows what you have to learn not to do to reach 1800.

blitz games are nothing man, i dont usually play online anyways, i usually play against an engine for several hours a day.

Swagmeister123

lfPatriotGames wrote:

I think both aggressivesociopath and Bobbytalporov are right. Well IMbacon is right too. OK, pretty much everyone is right. Even good advice isn't going to do much good if you dont have a realistic understanding of where you are starting from. If the goal is to get to 1800, which is just a silly number, much of the advice is the same if you are starting from 700 or 1700. You may have been misled into believing you are at a 1700 level. Accept that maybe you are starting at 1400 or 1500 and want to get to 1800. It will be easier than if you falsely believe you are starting at 1700. I think that just like any other goal or endeavour, a lesser talented or skilled person will need more (or at least different) things than someone more advanced to get to that next level. If you believe you are 1700 you may not be willing to learn the necessary things to get to 1800, whereas someone who realistically understands he is a 1400 is eager and willing to learn the basics a 1700 probably already knows.

this crap again god damn its like pure english falling on deaf words. starting to think chess players arent really that smart after all.

Swagmeister123

btw everyone im playi g in a rated tournament sept 2 to 4 at the toronto open. ill post my results here, if im wrong about my rating ill accept it, but well just have to wait

DjonniDerevnja
Swagmeister123 wrote:
aggressivesociopath wrote:
 


 That was a blitz game, but it shows what you have to learn not to do to reach 1800.

blitz games are nothing man, i dont usually play online anyways, i usually play against an engine for several hours a day.

Blitz is too fast. I dont like internet long chess because I get bored. Long chess is better otb when you can walk around at look at the other tables.

Bt what about rapid? Rapid is fine on internet, partially  better than otb because we get automatic notations.

Swagmeister123

IMBacon wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Swagmeister123 wrote:
mickynj wrote:

" my ratings here are very inaccurate "

No they are not! Your ratings perfectly reflect your results.

hey buddy watch your tone dont be arrogant here. you have no odea what ur talking about. my ratings are inaccurate as i staed here when i was very young, and now i mainly face the engine. so dont talk about things that you havent a clube about.

If this game is a reflection of your ability, then your ratings here are accurate.

https://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=2273797511

go off urself faggot this thread has gone to shit with all u assholes questioning my rating like fuck u i said im 1700 and i want to acheive 1800 so either give advice or fuck off dont bash me like a pretentious cuck

Self-Esteem issues.

Inflated view on yourself.

Anger issues.

Chess may not be for you.

thank u. pls kill urself.

Swagmeister123

DjonniDerevnja wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:
aggressivesociopath wrote:
 


 That was a blitz game, but it shows what you have to learn not to do to reach 1800.

blitz games are nothing man, i dont usually play online anyways, i usually play against an engine for several hours a day.

Blitz is too fast. I dont like internet long chess because I get bored. Long chess is better otb when you can walk around at look at the other tables.

Bt what about rapid? Rapid is fine on internet, partially  better than otb because we get automatic notations.

agreed rapid is currently my fav online ive been starting to play it a bit more often, but i still prefer the engine over all but thats just me.

Swagmeister123

IMBacon wrote:

Cherub_Enjel wrote:

@swagmeister: Don't listen to those people who are just jealous of your nice rating (notice how they're all rated lower than 1700). You are indeed 1700, and to break 1800 is nothing but easy.

Remember, blitz ratings on this site are very underrated at the class player level! So indeed your 1400 rating could very well be 1700 OTB rating, especially if you're bad at blitz/speed chess, which no one cares that much about anyways. 

 

You might even be able to be world champion soon - it's just one step at a time.

 

For the most part the OP is getting some sound advice, and is getting what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear.  I dont align with this "make everyone feel good" mentality.  If you cant handle being told the truth, then dont ask. 

ur a fag. im asking how to get to 1800. im stating im currently around 1700. and all ive got for answers was people saying ur not at 1700, when i never asked if i was. people are giving me answers to a question i never asked thats why im mad.

Swagmeister123

BobbyTalparov wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:

IMBacon wrote:

Cherub_Enjel wrote:

@swagmeister: Don't listen to those people who are just jealous of your nice rating (notice how they're all rated lower than 1700). You are indeed 1700, and to break 1800 is nothing but easy.

Remember, blitz ratings on this site are very underrated at the class player level! So indeed your 1400 rating could very well be 1700 OTB rating, especially if you're bad at blitz/speed chess, which no one cares that much about anyways. 

 

You might even be able to be world champion soon - it's just one step at a time.

 

For the most part the OP is getting some sound advice, and is getting what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear.  I dont align with this "make everyone feel good" mentality.  If you cant handle being told the truth, then dont ask. 

ur a fag. im asking how to get to 1800. im stating im currently around 1700. and all ive got for answers was people saying ur not at 1700, when i never asked if i was. people are giving me answers to a question i never asked thats why im mad.

In your crude responses, you have failed to grasp why it is important to assess your current level in order to answer your question. After it became clear that your have no established rating, the recommendation is to play in a OTB tournament to gauge where you actually are. Since you stated you are playing in one in a little over a week, there is really nothing left to discuss.

my current level is already assessed. ive been playing for 10 years, so i dont think it is so farfetched to say ive acheived a 1700 rating in classical. ill play at the tournament and post my official rating after.

Swagmeister123

here is one more of my games i played recently against the 1800 engine to prove my abilities. the mistake Re1 is pretty bad, yet i only made one more inaccuracy and came out with the win.  1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. Bd3 O-O 8. O-O Re8 9. Re1 d5 10. exd5 Rxe1+ 11. Qxe1 Nxd5 12. Bd2 Nxc3 13. Bxc3 Bxc3 14. Qxc3 Qd6 15. Be4 Be6 16. Qxc6 Rb8 17. Qxd6 cxd6 18. b3 d5 19. Bf3 Kf8 20. h3 Rc8 21. Rc1 Bf5 22. Bxd5 Rc3 23. f3 Ke7 24. Be4 Bxe4 25. fxe4 Ke6 26. a4 a5 27. Kf2 f6 28. Ke2 Rg3 29. Rg1 g5 30. Kf2 Rc3 31. Rc1 Ke5 32. Ke2 Rg3 33. Kf2 Rc3 34. Ke2 h5 35. Kd2 Rg3 36. Rg1 Kd4 37. Ke2 Re3+ 38. Kf2 Rxe4 39. Re1 Rxe1 40. Kxe1 Kc3 41. Kd1 f5 42. g3 Kb4 43. Kd2 Ka3 44. Kd3 g4 45. hxg4 fxg4 46. c4 Kb4 47. Kd4 h4 48. gxh4 g3 49. Ke3 g2 50. Kf2 Kxb3 51. Kxg2 Kb4 52. h5 Kxa4 53. h6 Kb4 54. h7 a4 55. h8=Q Kxc4 56. Qh4+ Kd5 57. Qxa4 Ke6 58. Qb5 Ke7 59. Qc6 Kf7 60. Kf3 Ke7 61. Ke4 Kd8 62. Qb7 Ke8 63. Ke5 Kd8 64. Ke6 Ke8 65. Qa8#  1-0

DontMateMeBrah

Playing a dumbed down engine proves nothing.

Swagmeister123

DontMateMeBrah wrote:

Playing a dumbed down engine proves nothing.

1800 doesnt seem dumbed down to me, sou ds like ur a little jelly

chesster3145

Um, 1800 engines are dumbed down, to the point that they play like a 2400 half of the time and like a 1200 the other half of the time. That makes them much easier to beat than normal 1800s, in that you can in theory score 50% against them when they don't blunder if you're 1800, but they will also blunder frequently playing like a 1200 for half of every game.

Swagmeister123

chesster3145 wrote:

Um, 1800 engines are dumbed down, to the point that they play like a 2400 half of the time and like a 1200 the other half of the time. That makes them much easier to beat than normal 1800s, in that you can in theory score 50% against them when they don't blunder if you're 1800, but they will also blunder frequently playing like a 1200 for half of every game.

no buddy i dont think so. the engine rarely makes any mistakes or inaccuracies. where did u even get that dumbed down engine idea? it is rated at 1800 and that is it.

chesster3145
Swagmeister123 wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:

Um, 1800 engines are dumbed down, to the point that they play like a 2400 half of the time and like a 1200 the other half of the time. That makes them much easier to beat than normal 1800s, in that you can in theory score 50% against them when they don't blunder if you're 1800, but they will also blunder frequently playing like a 1200 for half of every game.

no buddy i dont think so. the engine rarely makes any mistakes or inaccuracies. where did u even get that dumbed down engine idea? it is rated at 1800 and that is it.

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