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learningthemoves
Ziryab wrote:

Love the tubes! Busted my gut on that one. Kinda like watching some of the dog videos on YouTube.

+1

Brain_Attack
sisu wrote:
1. Most players of chess are too lazy to improve. So they substitute for the lack of skill with other things, to try and win. Or perhaps they just like a fast game with some chance to win, instead of wanting to improve at all.

2. I assume its because they want to maintain their ratings higher. If their "time playing" is not working against a good player, they run. Simple really.

3. Can only assume lack of maturity. But usually the cowards are the runners! However sometimes people run if they feel they are being insulted by the lack of ability. It depends what type of game you are looking for.

4. Nationality has no bearing on it.

5. No. Some unskilled players are trying to improve their game. And not all time players are runners, and vice versa.


Instead of generalising, it is better to watch. On internet sites, the best question to ask yourself about a player is "How did they achieve that rating?".

"The questions are the answers you might need."

I give you an appreciation of the seriousness in responding to my question. Your answer is the most satisfying response among all the response. You really understand about the psychology of the game. Thanks in advance.

Brain_Attack
Ziryab wrote:

Wow! I must be a coward because I prefer opponents who are higher rated than the OP. I must be a runner because I rarely accept and almost never offer rematches. I must be unskilled because I often win on time, even from hopelessly lost positions. I must lack the ability to comprehend the world described here because I am older than the OP. Heck, just to be nice, some folks call me "mature".

I encourage you to read the responses of Mr.Sisu, hopefully it can help you understand what I mean by this post.

Brain_Attack
learningthemoves wrote:

I despise it when someone beats me, because everyone knows that can only mean one thing. (For the intellectual giants of the group among us, that means they got lucky.) 

Then, when they add insult to injury with the criminally cowardly deed of "running" away and declining the rematch I'm entitled to, it just confirms they were spineless weaklings with no class and know they got lucky.

For these crap weasels, I keep my own database separate from the archives of chess.com and award myself the points due to their forfeits.

If they "run" = automatic forfeit -10 points.

If they "decline" = automatic forfeit -10 points.

So don't believe the ratings here, because the well documented facts reveal they have many losses by forfeits they won't even admit to knowing about.

Incidentally, Partogi, you will be happy to know you have won dozens of these matches by forfeits. We deducted extra points from the enemy when they played another game immediately after declining your rematch request. 

(I have documented these acts of cowardice and adjusted the ratings of as many as I could with my team. We are currently only a small team made of volunteers who follow these "decline"r and "run"ner cowards, but we are updating as fast as we can, so be patient with us.

(Partogi, if you are truly interested in joining the fight, please contact us through our pro-sportsmanship address provided to you later via pm.)

On the other hand, it's perfectly acceptable when I decline a rematch because I have my legit reasons for doing so. Let's cut the niceties boys. Bottom line, I'm still the head alpha male of this world big baller shot caller important ceo of multinational corporations that keep this world spinning for the ungrateful parasites I sacrificed my life for to lead to salvation by living a solid example of how it should be.

I also donate to charities all over the world regularly and help elderly ladies cross the street while discussing the newest advances in knitting with them. Not because I enjoy knitting or that there would be anything wrong with that, but because I'm secure enough in my masculinity to drink a blue moon with a slice of orange in it. 

So I hope you listen up real good boys because big daddy's going to help clear it up for you.

If anyone disagrees with me, then it's obvious they are either a complete moron or are "pro-disease". So think wisely and then take your pick. Either way, I eat steak tonight.

Lengthy explanation, I also appreciate the seriousness of your response to my post. I agree with your sentence fragment on the last part: "So think wisely and then take your pick." Thanks in advance

Brain_Attack

>>ALL:
I apologize, because I don't always leave a comment for each of your responses. However, I am very pleased with all your intellectual involvement here. Thank you for your enthusiasm. Keep the spirit and good luck!

royalbishop
Slovensik wrote:

All people do on this website is cry about people being time players.  If you can't finish the game in the allocated time, then play a longer control.  Anybody who plays one-minute chess is a time player.  And as for 'runners,' get over yourself wannabegmjoey1.  You sound like you lost a few games on time and took it personally.  Grow a pair and move on.  Your rating here doesn't matter, just like you.  :)

One minute chess......     all luck. If you take 2 evenly skilled players the win/loss ratio should be about even over the course of 100+ games. Just plain old mouse clicking game.

Sure if you memorize theory and rules it is great but sure the middle game is full of blown opportunities to end the game or bring about the end of the game.

LoveYouSoMuch
learningthemoves wrote:

I despise it when someone beats me, because everyone knows that can only mean one thing. (For the intellectual giants of the group among us, that means they got lucky.) 

Then, when they add insult to injury with the criminally cowardly deed of "running" away and declining the rematch I'm entitled to, it just confirms they were spineless weaklings with no class and know they got lucky.

For these crap weasels, I keep my own database separate from the archives of chess.com and award myself the points due to their forfeits.

If they "run" = automatic forfeit -10 points.

If they "decline" = automatic forfeit -10 points.

So don't believe the ratings here, because the well documented facts reveal they have many losses by forfeits they won't even admit to knowing about.

Incidentally, Partogi, you will be happy to know you have won dozens of these matches by forfeits. We deducted extra points from the enemy when they played another game immediately after declining your rematch request. 

(I have documented these acts of cowardice and adjusted the ratings of as many as I could with my team. We are currently only a small team made of volunteers who follow these "decline"r and "run"ner cowards, but we are updating as fast as we can, so be patient with us.

(Partogi, if you are truly interested in joining the fight, please contact us through our pro-sportsmanship address provided to you later via pm.)

On the other hand, it's perfectly acceptable when I decline a rematch because I have my legit reasons for doing so. Let's cut the niceties boys. Bottom line, I'm still the head alpha male of this world big baller shot caller important ceo of multinational corporations that keep this world spinning for the ungrateful parasites I sacrificed my life for to lead to salvation by living a solid example of how it should be.

I also donate to charities all over the world regularly and help elderly ladies cross the street while discussing the newest advances in knitting with them. Not because I enjoy knitting or that there would be anything wrong with that, but because I'm secure enough in my masculinity to drink a blue moon with a slice of orange in it. 

So I hope you listen up real good boys because big daddy's going to help clear it up for you.

If anyone disagrees with me, then it's obvious they are either a complete moron or are "pro-disease". So think wisely and then take your pick. Either way, I eat steak tonight.

this was absolutely amazing and deserves to be quoted in its entirety

royalbishop wrote:

One minute chess......     all luck. If you take to even skilled players the win/loss ratio should be about even over the course of 100+ games. Just plain old mouse clicking game.

what does this even mean, sorry i lack reading comprehension

royalbishop
royalbishop wrote:
Slovensik wrote:

All people do on this website is cry about people being time players.  If you can't finish the game in the allocated time, then play a longer control.  Anybody who plays one-minute chess is a time player.  And as for 'runners,' get over yourself wannabegmjoey1.  You sound like you lost a few games on time and took it personally.  Grow a pair and move on.  Your rating here doesn't matter, just like you.  :)

One minute chess......     all luck. If you take 2 evenly skilled players the win/loss ratio should be about even over the course of 100+ games. Just plain old mouse clicking game.

Sure if you memorize theory and rules it is great but sure the middle game is full of blown opportunities to end the game or bring about the end of the game.

 5 minute and 10 minute games  i do not consider to be a mouse clicking game.

royalbishop
Slovensik wrote:

ahahah!!!  I totally love blue moon with an orange in it!

I think we have a member with the username bluemoon.

Ziryab

One minute chess is not luck. Mouse clicking is a skill.

royalbishop
Ziryab wrote:

One minute chess is not luck. Mouse clicking is a skill.

Luck, luck and luck.

Ex 30 moves in 60 seconds..... 2 sec move. Now most games are over that i say more around 60 moves ~  1 move per sec. That is not requiring skill at all.

Mindless moves starting at move 2!

Ziryab

Once, on a server before Chess.com was born, I made 120 moves on a touchpad in a two minute game. I used a normal opening and won the pawn ending. I had not seen random senseless moves in bullet until I played on chess.com.

TheArtofWar82
Ziryab wrote:

Once, on a server before Chess.com was born, I made 120 moves on a touchpad in a two minute game. I used a normal opening and won the pawn ending. I had not seen random senseless moves in bullet until I played on chess.com.

IMO - Chess.com should be pay subscription only.  That would drive away a lot of the bullet/blitz kiddies and clean up the forums tremendously.

Ziryab
TheArtofWar82 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Once, on a server before Chess.com was born, I made 120 moves on a touchpad in a two minute game. I used a normal opening and won the pawn ending. I had not seen random senseless moves in bullet until I played on chess.com.

IMO - Chess.com should be pay subscription only.  That would drive away a lot of the bullet/blitz kiddies and clean up the forums tremendously.

It is true that was on a site that offered free two week trials, and then was members only. It seems that an annual membership was about $30 then. It's twice that now, but still a bargain for quality online play.

WilliamHStokes

Skilled players know what land they are in. By land, I am referring to the time constraints of the game as well as the chess skills they bring. If the sole purpose is winning some players will show their skill by exploiting the preexisting time constraints to win. If this player's talent lies in mouse speed, they may run (with your points) in exchange of being a coward. I would suspect 1-0 and similar time controls to have the heaviest amount of such players. Speed and opportunism go hand in hand.

royalbishop
WilliamHStokes wrote:

Skilled players know what land they are in. By land, I am referring to the time constraints of the game as well as the chess skills they bring. If the sole purpose is winning some players will show their skill by exploiting the preexisting time constraints to win. If this player's talent lies in mouse speed, they may run (with your points) in exchange of being a coward. I would suspect 1-0 and similar time controls to have the heaviest amount of such players. Speed and opportunism go hand in hand.

+1

Ziryab

Rating is the only reason for 1 0 chess. Well, that, and the adrenaline rush. Most active 1 0 players are addicts.

Brain_Attack
WilliamHStokes wrote:

Skilled players know what land they are in. By land, I am referring to the time constraints of the game as well as the chess skills they bring. If the sole purpose is winning some players will show their skill by exploiting the preexisting time constraints to win. If this player's talent lies in mouse speed, they may run (with your points) in exchange of being a coward. I would suspect 1-0 and similar time controls to have the heaviest amount of such players. Speed and opportunism go hand in hand.

Yeah, based on skilled player's perspective, I do agree that the sole purpose is winning some players. It will show their skill by exploiting the preexisting time constraints to win. Smile

Brain_Attack
Ziryab wrote:

Rating is the only reason for 1 0 chess. Well, that, and the adrenaline rush. Most active 1 0 players are addicts.

I strongly agree with your brief comments.Cool

Brain_Attack
Slovensik wrote:

All people do on this website is cry about people being time players.  If you can't finish the game in the allocated time, then play a longer control.  Anybody who plays one-minute chess is a time player.  And as for 'runners,' get over yourself wannabegmjoey1.  You sound like you lost a few games on time and took it personally.  Grow a pair and move on.  Your rating here doesn't matter, just like you.  :)

Statement "get over yourself wannabegmjoey1", wow this is very intriguing. LoL