you are NOT allowed to use any notes during an over the board tournament game to aid in anyway. you can write down the time used though. Technically not even ! ? ?? etc should be used but noone will complain
Taking notes during OTB tournament game
Sort:
May 17, 2012
0
#3
No notes, for sure. It might even be against the rules to circle move 40, but everyone does it.
May 17, 2012
0
#4
Agreed. The no notes rule has become rather strict in practice, from what I hear.
This question makes me wonder if it would be tolerated for someone to make unreadable notes during a game (so that they could read them after the game). Something like recording thoughts on a recording device, but silent.
I can add you are allowed to write down times
I am pretty sure he is right in a technical sense (i seem to remember a discussion somewhere long ago answered by an official) but noone would enforce it because its silly and everyone does it GM down and its not really like it helps you play better moves.
I actually saw a new player do this. He had a notepad and during his turn he would scribble on it as he analysed. His opponent and the TD were nice about letting him know that this was completely unacceptable.
funny, but ya most players are nice if your obviously new to a tournament and breaking the rules
I seem to recall reading that it was illegal to take notes in FIDE game in last months Chess Life.
This is fascinating. I would love to hear how taking notes, or writing anything down at all, can be held to be an unfair advantage in an OTB game. Is this a long division competition, in which all players must do the problem in their heads? What, precisely, could you write down on a notepad (but that you couldn't also just think without writing) that would help you solve the chess problem on the board in front of you? And what harm would it do if both players could do this? Maybe you could write "Will all those standing around the board right now please nod your head if you think Nd5 is a good move?" But that's not "taking notes" - that's explicitly signaling others. So let's stipulate: if the room were empty, and even the opponent couldn't see your notes, how could taking notes during the game help you, or otherwise affect the outcome of the game such that this activity needs to be banned?
The one thing I can think of is: one could analyze a series of captures and keep a running total of the point value of pieces exchanged, to see whether it comes out in your favor. Now, I feel sorry for any chess player who is so bad at small real number addition and subtraction who can't do this in his head, but if he can't do this and his opponent can, is that a reason to prevent him doing it? If you are playing me in a friendly game, feel free to scribble away.
Sep 7, 2012
0
#11
Shadowknight911 wrote:
hijacking this thread slightly, I was able to do some "visual notes" this weekend in one game that was sort of funny. So here we were at the Elementary School Nationals, in Round 3. The top players (all 2000+) were all playing guys in the 1600's, so no one was really paying much attention to their own game, including myself. My opponent made a move and after snapping out of dreamland, I looked at the guys to my left and my right and was noticing they were looking at my game. One was crinkling his nose, the the other was shaking his head. Sure enough, after 5 seconds of observation, yep, the guy hung a piece.
I was playing one of my friends OTB, we were in a rook endgame that was probably winning for me, when he made a move and said "oops, their goes my rook." I hadn't seen it right away, because it was not obvious, but I found the tactic in a second.
Hahaha, this topic is So relevant right now.!
ultrajohn wrote:
Hahaha, this topic is So relevant right now.!
hahahaah I laughed SO hard!
Apr 12, 2015
0
#14
No notes, for sure. It might even be against the rules to circle move 40, but everyone does it.Why?
Apr 12, 2015
0
#15
I thought you were allowed to take note in a non-FIDE tournament, is that right?
Apr 12, 2015
0
#16
GM Wesley So had to forfeit a recent tournament game because of notes he took (correction: during the game) and, I think, brought it to the table? Something like that? Here's his Facebook post about it:
(https://www.facebook.com/wesleyso/posts/10152886311127857)
Apr 12, 2015
0
#17
dragonair234 wrote:
GM Wesley So had to forfeit a recent tournament game because of notes he took before the game and, I think, brought it to the table? Something like that? Here's his Facebook post about it:
He wrote the note during the game, at the table. Apparently, he had received 2 prior warnings (about something, not sure if it was for writing notes or not) during the tournament. Bizarre.
Apr 12, 2015
0
#18
jeasbed wrote:
dragonair234 wrote:
GM Wesley So had to forfeit a recent tournament game because of notes he took before the game and, I think, brought it to the table? Something like that? Here's his Facebook post about it:
He wrote the note during the game, at the table. Apparently, he had received 2 prior warnings (about something, not sure if it was for writing notes or not) during the tournament. Bizarre.
This interview with GM So tries to explain things if anyone's interested:
Full interview (https://chess24.com/en/read/news/wesley-so-another-forfeit-and-a-cheater-caught)
Apr 12, 2015
0
#19
Last week, I was at a tournament. I sat down at the board, and shook my opponents hand. My opponent asked me what my rating was, so I told him. He then WROTE IT DOWN ON HIS SCORE SHEET!!!
Of course, I immediately got up, and informed the tournament director what my cheating opponent had done. I insisted, quite correctly, that the game should be awarded to me, due to my opponent's illegal activities.
I also said I expected his USCF membership to be suspended, and for this player to be blacklisted for tournament chess for a year. A reasonable step, imo.
But do you think any of that happened?! No!
Instead, my lazy, lackluster TD refused to penalize my (clearly) cheating opponent, and said I must proceed with the game, as if tnothing had happened!!
Naturally, I said I was withdrawing from the tournament. But the TD REFUSED TO RETURN MY ENTRY FEE.
I left anyway, amd the point was actually awarded to my opponent. Even though he was the one who was cheating.
Why is it Akobian isn't required to play against cheaters, but the rest of us are? What makes Akobian so much more special than the rest of us? Can anybody answer me that?????
Apr 12, 2015
0
#20
varelse1 wrote:
Last week, I was at a tournament. I sat down at the board, and shook my opponents hand. My opponent asked me what my rating was, so I told him. He then WROTE IT DOWN ON HIS SCORE SHEET!!!
Of course, I immediately got up, and informed the tournament director what my cheating opponent had done. I insisted, quite correctly, that the game should be awarded to me, due to my opponent's illegal activities.
I also said I expected his USCF membership to be suspended, and for this player to be blacklisted for tournament chess for a year. A reasonable step, imo.
But do you think any of that happened?! No!
Instead, my lazy, lackluster TD refused to penalize my (clearly) cheating opponent, and said I must proceed with the game, as if tnothing had happened!!
Naturally, I said I was withdrawing from the tournament. But the TD REFUSED TO RETURN MY ENTRY FEE.
I left anyway, amd the point was actually awarded to my opponent. Even though he was the one who was cheating.
Why is it Akobian isn't required to play against cheaters, but the rest of us are? What makes Akobian so much more special than the rest of us? Can anybody answer me that?????
you are joking right?
During tournaments, are you allowed to write notes as an aid to calculating, or are you only allowed to write down the actual moves made?