The 1100-1200 range is the absolute worst range to be in.

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sndeww
TheNameofNames wrote:

my high is 1500 and im stuck in 1200 i tilt like crazy at this range too because i sincerely believe i should be winning easily. Thats the danger, believing youll win effortlessly

tilt happens when you think "I should win against these bad players easily", and then forgetting that you didn't get to your current rating due to playing mindlessly but rather due to actually trying hard every game.

sndeww
EveryoneIsUnderratedd wrote:

Yeah it's 100% trash. When you play an "1100" they are always 1500 or 1600 in rapid so they clearly understand chess at that level. Or the opposite end... you play an "1100" and get crashed and somehow they are 800 in rapid. It's honestly just so dumb.

I still think you should be able to filter opponents who have a +/- 200 ELO lets say among the three time controls.

not everyone who is X rating at blitz plays at X rating in rapid.

lislois

i'm one of the players that makes elo 1100-1200 a hell grin.png from analyser quite often my games ae raated within range 1600-1800 and then during a next game i give my queen for nothing because i'ma blind mole ... 
I guess keeping focussed is the key, and loads of people cannot stay focussed for a prolonged time unless they practice it.

BigChessplayer665
lislois wrote:

i'm one of the players that makes elo 1100-1200 a hell from analyser quite often my games ae raated within range 1600-1800 and then during a next game i give my queen for nothing because i'ma blind mole ... 
I guess keeping focussed is the key, and loads of people cannot stay focussed for a prolonged time unless they practice it.

Don't focus on game review it rates elo sometimes based off of other people's elo do if a 1600 plays the same type of game they could get scored lower or higher than a 1200 would

lislois

so if i play against 1100 guy and my review elo game evaluation shows 1600, is it really lower tahn 1600, or i misunderstood you?

BigChessplayer665
lislois wrote:

so if i play against 1100 guy and my review elo game evaluation shows 1600, is it really lower tahn 1600, or i misunderstood you?

Depends in complicated positions they score lower in easier positions you will score higher

So yes and no

lislois

in chess there is never an easy answer grin.png
thanks!

GavinTheKing668

Range is so bad, my first bottleneck ELO came 1100-1200 and took me 4 months

MaxwellyEgg
BigChessplayer665 wrote:

EveroneIsUnderrstedd is correct about that there's too much diversity in the 1200 range it is the same problem with 800s

more like every rating U1200 because it is hard in the 600s too. the 600s are way too diverse, some know how to move pieces but don't know how to castle, some should be in 1000, some don't even know basic rules, and many are just sandbaggers

dabestmano
#33 not to mention 300s
Falkentyne

Not sure what the point of this thread even is.

I have a few people 1100-1300 on my list, and I've played them a few times. They end up getting into passive positions with no counterplay, making extremely weakening moves, or leaving pawns or pieces improperly protected, as well as exchanging pieces when they have a fatal weakness (like a backward pawn on c7 which can't be defended because they have a second weak pawn elsewhere). Some people end up playing decent moves for awhile, then they make one very careless move which completely destroys their position.

Main issue I've seen is:

1) they keep walking into tactical threats or traps.

2) they fail to identify the weakness or flaws of their move, only looking at trying to attack something (this probably happens the most).

3) extreme difficulty understanding different pawn structures and correct plans with pieces revolving around them.

zeeeenith
CrusaderKing1 wrote:

Same as title.

1100-1200 is essentially elo hell. Much easier to play above 1200 opponents.

I think it's because a lot of people 1100-1200 can play 1500+ level games fairly easily but a lot of times throw games, rage games, inconsistent games, etc...all while having a pretty good potential skill set.

nah

crazedrat1000

I don't know how you're measuring their playing level. If you're going by what the computer estimates at the end - that thing isn't accurate, I often see it estimate me / my opponent both 300-500 points higher than we are in some games, other times 300-500 lower for both of us... I think that'll happen regardless of your elo, it's just some variability in the types of positions you're playing and the tool itself. Your opponents are rated 1100-1200, not 1500. They will win something like... 10% of the time against a 1500.

300-400 rating points is a big difference in chess. It often takes a while to jump up a tier, and your play will need to improve significantly.

xtreme2020
I’ve seen so many people say this but I got through 1100-1200 in like a day, now I’m stuck at ~1300 (if you call 2 weeks “stuck” but I feel stuck)
EveryoneIsUnderratedd

The goal should be to request to chess.com some kind of control to play players that are actually in say a +/- 100 or 200 ELO range across rapid and blitz. How many times do you all lose in blitz to an "1100" and then see they are actually 1500 or 1600 rapid... of course we will lose.

...Or even dumber you lose to an "1100" and they are something absurd like 700 or 800 in rapid which is even more suspicious.

xtreme2020
If they’ve played enough games at their time control that rating will be accurate no matter what their other ratings are. If you just get unlucky and they haven’t played that time control for a while, you lose less rating
xtreme2020
If they’re “1100” blitz the rapid rating doesn’t matter at all, they’re just 1100 blitz and that’s all you need to care about
Archon_Fulminology

I think its around 1100-1300 where its very mixed between serious and non-serious players. For most people 1100-1300 may be the highest level they can reach while playing casually (Not studying, analyzing, or anything of the sort). So either they continue to be casual and stick around here for a long time or is getting ready to be serious and improving themselves. Of course, the serious ones run into each other as well so its not as easy to get out of that rating even if they have already improved.

Elecwiz

I've been casually playing and doing daily puzzles and have been siting around 1050-1150 for a long while which seems fair as I don't study, review or anything and someone I know said to go above 1200 you really need to start to study and do more investment. Just the other day I hit 1200 and I was like woah that's wild and then I shot up to 1300 in a day with some of the easiest games I've played in a long time. I'll probably fall right back down but feels like something is wrong once over 1200

crazedrat1000

The progression from 1200-1700 mainly involves learning about chess principles, not so much studying specific opening lines. So these are things like tension, tempo, space, pawn structure, piece activity, etc.. Knowing openings helps but I don't think you need to know them too deeply, mainly you just want to be playing positions consistently so you start to pick up on the tactics / plans of those positions.