The etiquette of resigning

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CraigIreland

Resigning is as much a matter of respect for yourself as your opponent. I don't feel disrespected if a player tries in vain to stalemate me. If they're happy to keep playing with only their king then I'm happy to extend their false hope. If a player wants to try to win on time from a losing position there's nothing wrong with it. It could work out to be good practice for both players. 

blueemu
Praveen_bhat97 wrote:

But, what about resigning when your opponent is very low on time and has winning position?

If your opponent has miss-handled his clock, that's as serious an error as if he had blundered away a piece. Time is a resource, just as material and position are resources. The opponent may have a winning position BECAUSE he spent far too much time on the early part of the game.

Short answer: No, you are NOT expected to resign just because your opponent has messed up his handling of the clock.

egniib

Why resign if you can learn so much of losing games. I sometimes resign but mostly want to play out my games, especially to higher rated players. Its interesting to see how they play them out.

DreamscapeHorizons

One must hold their pinky straight out with the hand they move with. Lean forward slightly & as you lay your king down say "bam b**ch!  That's how we do it!".  Then say "good game, it was a pleasure to play you. Good luck in your remaining games".

But holding the pinky out is the main thing.

That's proper etiquette in resigning.  I hope that helps.

tlay80
egniib wrote:

Why resign if you can learn so much of losing games. I sometimes resign but mostly want to play out my games, especially to higher rated players. Its interesting to see how they play them out.

It depends, though.  You absolutely do learn from games you lose (and especially by analyzing them after), but that doesn't necessarily mean you learn much from the last twenty moves of a dead-lost endgame.  If you're a beginner, sure -- it can help to see how someone finishes off even an elementary win (and if you're in a beginner pool, you might get lucky and have them stalemate you).   But once you're better you might decide that playing a dead lost position is a waste of your time and that you'd do better to start a new game, or better, analyze this one until you really understand how you got yourself in such a tangle.

I like, though, how you're not framing it as an ethical decision.  I'm actually a big believer in taking ethical considerations very seriously in a lot of situations in life, even where the ideology of the free market likes to pretend that ethics are passé.  But this isn't one of them.  You don't owe it to someone to resign (or not resign -- believe it or not, that's an occasional subject of complaint too!).  This is a choice you get to make based on what works for you, not what your opponent expects.

dylanpthomas
In the real world of chess, meaning anyone that takes this seriously and doesn’t just play online, it’s actually pretty rare to deliver checkmate. There are a handful of YouTube channels I enjoy for watching games get analyzed. Almost always it’s said that at move (x) so and so resigned because nothing can be done from here. It’s respectful and intelligent to know when to resign. People make these comparisons with things like boxing, which is completely different. When you are totally lost on the board, it’s lost. There’s no catching a second wind and making it happen. But many people insist on continuing anyway trying to do things like flag you which I take as a slap in the face. Lastly, it’s extremely rare in my experience for people to do this OTB. In person, you look the other human in the eyes and shake their hand and say good game. When people are on their phones they do petty stuff like moving their pieces quickly when it’s clearly over.
FrancisWeed
dylanpthomas wrote:
In the real world of chess, meaning anyone that takes this seriously and doesn’t just play online, it’s actually pretty rare to deliver checkmate. There are a handful of YouTube channels I enjoy for watching games get analyzed. Almost always it’s said that at move (x) so and so resigned because nothing can be done from here. It’s respectful and intelligent to know when to resign. People make these comparisons with things like boxing, which is completely different. When you are totally lost on the board, it’s lost. There’s no catching a second wind and making it happen. But many people insist on continuing anyway trying to do things like flag you which I take as a slap in the face. Lastly, it’s extremely rare in my experience for people to do this OTB. In person, you look the other human in the eyes and shake their hand and say good game. When people are on their phones they do petty stuff like moving their pieces quickly when it’s clearly over.

yeah it was quite a shock the first time I played online. The convenience can't be beat though.

BazL
Depending on my mood, my level of tiredness, the skill of my opponent and the shape of the board I may resign after the loss of a major piece or I might play to the bitter end if I feel I have a fighting chance. What does annoy me is my opponent lingering over making the final mate move.
Eyes1289

I personally think that in a tournament it's polite to resign the moment your game tilts to save your opponent game fatigue, but that's in a tournament. OTB just do what keeps your jaw unbroken cause if someone breaks your jaw then you probably deserve it. But online!!!!!! Convenient yes, right in your home yes sucky opponents? Ohhhh yes! There's the chase your queen, the I don't know how to play so this takes ages!!!! The queen for a queen which slows our game down as we both suck at maneuvers without queens gah! Those I just resign and resolve never to play them......

jetoba

Lasker said "the hardest game to win is a won game".  I've played on in a lot of lost games, using all the strategy and tactics I could while requiring my opponent to continue to play well to win it.  I've drawn, and even won, a lot of those "lost" games - and rarely has time pressure been a consideration.

I resign when my quiver has no more arrows and I'm still totally lost.

rooqui
MapleDanish wrote:

Well this is just my two cents... and this is from an OTB perspective.

 

In a tournament, if I'm in the process of crushing you, I'd appreciate a resignation.  Obviously this is fairly rare... it seems to me the majority of people play until mate is on the horizon.

However... there's a benefit to resigning.  If you keep the people who are smashing you happy, and treat them with some respect... they're MUCH more likely to do you a favour and analyze the game with you.  It's free coaching, in exchange for an extra 5 useless moves. 

That's how I look at it anyways... I'm a fairly quick resigner and I appreciate at least some reasonableness in return.  If you make me mate you I'll shake your hand and walk away.

-matt

I had to look up what OTB means and I think the first answer I got from google was "one tough board" or something like that

8alla0

resign if your about to get mated normally, like a backrack or normal mate, but if it's a cool mate, like knight and bishop, knight mate, or a pawn mate, let it play out.

8alla0

unless you aren't sure your opponent can convert, like NBKvK or, if you are at a lower level, like around 800, RKvK.

Sadlone

First summon the chief arbiter to your table and only in his presence should you resign, otherwise there is a possibility that your opponent may refuse your resignation and ask you to carry on which is not good for your morale

blueemu
rooqui wrote:

I had to look up what OTB means and I think the first answer I got from google was "one tough board" or something like that

One Tough B*****d?

jetoba
Sadlone wrote:

First summon the chief arbiter to your table and only in his presence should you resign, otherwise there is a possibility that your opponent may refuse your resignation and ask you to carry on which is not good for your morale

Calling an arbiter over for every resignation is one way to get arbiters ... perturbed ... with you.  However,, simply resigning and calling an arbiter only when the resignation is refused will transfer that perturbance to your opponent.

blueemu
Optimissed wrote:
Sadlone wrote:

First summon the chief arbiter to your table and only in his presence should you resign, otherwise there is a possibility that your opponent may refuse your resignation and ask you to carry on which is not good for your morale

How would you refuse a resignation? That sounds funny.

Maybe it's like:

"I don't want you to just DIE... I want to KILL you!"

yasroslav
Sadlone wrote:

First summon the chief arbiter to your table and only in his presence should you resign, otherwise there is a possibility that your opponent may refuse your resignation and ask you to carry on which is not good for your morale

Its important to follow proper etiquette and protocol when resigning in a chess game resigning should be done in a gracious and sportsmanlike manner and it is important to ensure that the chief arbiter is present before formally resigning this ensures that the game is ended in a fair and orderly manner and helps to maintain the integrity of the competition Additionally, it is also good to remember that in official tournament games it is not allowed to resign and the game should be played till the end

Sadlone
Optimissed wrote:
Sadlone wrote:

First summon the chief arbiter to your table and only in his presence should you resign, otherwise there is a possibility that your opponent may refuse your resignation and ask you to carry on which is not good for your morale

How would you refuse a resignation? That sounds funny.

That has happened to me in a tournament game, I was a junior then 30 years ago, playing in one of my first few tournaments, my opponent I still remember was irritatingly humming some tune throughout the game , I lost a piece to a central pawn fork and immediately offered to resign, my opponent refused to accept he said now u can't resign I have just started to enjoy the game , I have taken one of your pieces now slowly one by one I will kill all of them and then will be the turn of your pawns which remain they too will persish and after that I will kill your king, I protested and said u can't kill the king he said yes I can u will see, after hearing all this from psycho person I disappeared from the tournament hall , ran home, didn't even bother to return for the remaining rounds , it was quite traumatic

JanessaMck
This is a really interesting thread, thanks for posting