The etiquette of resigning

An engine wouldn’t help you much down a Queen. Engines have no conception of how to properly play for a swindle. That’s a purely human skill. 

Never resign. Even if you think the game is dead lost, continue playing. I remember a game I was playing and things were looking bad, but I kept playing and won. 

https://www.chess.com/analysis/library/57W2K9P8u4?tab=review

Full respect to my opponent, they played a great game.

To irk your ego is exactly the point of exactly doing that.
This is how you can lose against the higher-rated players; they will use your psychological weaknesses against you.

So get over it: what happens on the chessboard is nothing personal. It's an abstract game dictated by non-human logic and abiding by non-human rules. It's pure logic.

Yes I would always use mass media as a source for professional logic.

But no, you can win down a queen. Queen sacrifices can open up valuable lines. It's about checkmate and nothing else. Chess is combinatorial, not dominance-based. Material is only one of the resources to achieve the mating line.

If Messi gets red carded, does Argentina just give up?

It's only after losing the king that you are lost. Simple rules to abide by.

I mean, don't you guys get it? Etiquette is for the dumb folk. This is chess.

What happens on the board is inherently unrelated to real life. It is so, because on the board the point is to kill the opponent as fast as possible. IRL, the point is to forgive him and move on. Categorically different realms. You have to learn to make a clean distinction. The chess game is not the personal interaction, inasmuch as professional soccer players only act social with social rules once the game is over. On the pitch, only the rules of the pitch count.

I resign because I know longer wish to look at my mistake.  Different people resign for different reasons.

 

I am sure some resign to sandbag.

I'll resign when the position seems hopeless. Until that point, though, if there is still the possibility of reasonable counterplay, I will play on.

When my opponent resigns, though? I'm not really concerned. If they want to play on until mate, fine by me. They're a fighter. If they want to resign early, fine by me, too. A win is a win.

f it is allowed, then, why can we report players quitting on chess.com? to jam the servers? 

Does anyone think they are keeping the points from a win?

"Quitting" is NOT the same thing as "Resigning".

When a player resigns, the game ends immediately. But certain trolls on this site like to punish anyone who beats them by simply refusing to move... instead, sitting there with the clock ticking down without resigning and without making any more moves. They are hoping to waste enough of the opponent's time that he'll get angry and resign the game instead of sitting out the minutes until the troll forfeits on time.

THAT is "Quitting" or "Stalling".

No not even bruh anymore

 

just tf is wrong with you?

(With obvious sarcasm) Yes, I would always trust a fictional movie to teach me real things.

Queen sacrifices are some of the best moves in chess. I once sacced my queen for a bishop so that I could capture a pawn on the other side of the board, and one move later win the game. It's called a "Brilliant Move".

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From my very low rated beginner point of view:

I resign when I don’t feel like fighting or when fighting seems absolutely pointless. 
Most times I’d carry on until the check mate because at my level there is a good chance it ends in a stalemate. 

resigning because your opponent is guaranteed to win “if he plays all the right moves” is a concept that doesn’t really work for low rated players, as they will most likely just f it up somewhere along the line, either through a blunder or a stalemate

you guys resign, because you're allowed to resign, so you do it. in other (professional) sports, you can't resign. resigning is only reasonable against players with at least 2000 elo, because it's very reasonable to believe that they can convert the game somewhat easily. anything below that, one wrong move can lose the game, so it's not reasonable to resign at all. but you guys won't listen anyway, so keep losing points for no reason at all, i guess

in fact it makes more sense to play very well when you're down material, because your opponents most often than not relax - which in chess, you can basically never do. in fact when you're up significant material, you gotta tell yourself "oh, i have to start playing really good now"

I just had a guy, rated quite a bit higher than me (1500 vs 800), resign one move from CM. CM had been seriously on the cards for maybe 4 moves and it would have taken a blunder from me to lose. Before that I felt he was in the ascendancy and given the ranking difference he would have expected to win (I certainly expected to lose).

So I was thinking, “well that’s sour grapes and a little disrespectful”. And I get a sense that’s maybe the consensus here?

But then I figure you just don’t know what’s going on in the guy’s day. He’s probably annoyed with himself, frustrated, etc. Maybe stuff IRL too. Hoped I’d blunder until I couldn’t possibly. He could be a kid or anything.

I certainly wasn’t particularly put out by it, am enjoying the little victory ✌️, but thought interesting to think about the psych objectively.

A “bigger guy” (or gal) would rise above their feelings and bow out gracefully, but we’re probably all guilty of being ruled by our emotions from time to time.

But what seems to be deliberately and “coldly” designed to annoy is this stalling tactic people do.

I’m in two games against this fella, 24 hours and 7 day move limits. We had played once before and I’d won and he challenged me (initially declined) to the 7 day and the 24.

So in the 7 day limit I’ve won essentially. I think you can go on my profile and see the two games in question. But he seems to be letting the clock tick down for 7 days! He’s playing other games…INCLUDING AGAINST ME! 😂

And in the 24 hour limit he’s doing the same! My victory isn’t assured, but I’m up, and he’s letting the clock tick down to a few minutes!

I don’t particularly care, and will just let them roll, but I do like to wrap things up and move on.

Is he just hoping I resign/offer a draw? Or just being annoying/trolling?

I don't consider it sour grapes. A resignation is an acknowledgement, by your opponent, that you defeated them.

Sour grapes would be refusing to move and letting their time expire, on purpose ...

I have a certain recurring opponent who does this as a habit. He will play quickly the entire game (quite a fast player), but once he's in a dead-lost, forced mate position, he will refuse to move and will let his clock run down to zero. He does this every time.

It's his own way of "punishing you" for outplaying him, by making you wait extra time. Sounds a lot like the player you describe in post #137.

5 of your opponent's 19 current games are down to a single digit number of hours so he might just be focusing only on the games near the deadline.

Online Chess has no impolite way to resign a game because your nit facing your opponent!? If facing your opponent its bad to just get up and walk away without at least offering one's hand .... however with online your opponent doesn't have to send you any congratulations, a Mojo handshake or any other comments, he can run his clock down, because he doesn't like to resign, he can even refuse to move ... its online world a big difference from the world of chess gentlemen when you play over the board where there is an etiquette between gentlemen or ladies.

I'm a beginner and don't know when a position is lost! Sorry!