The Grandmaster's positional understanding, by Igor Smirnov

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b2ackstallion

I studied the video courses: "Your Winning Plan" and "Winning the Middlegame". They focus on thinking, planning (based on pawn structures, forcing moves and centralization), analysing, how to find candidate moves and how to select among them. I have watched the courses several times and they "spell it out for you". Having read some of the best books on middlegame play, that did not spell out a clear and simple algorithm for middlegame play. Now I know how and when to "use" a weakness, how and when to "create" a weakness, how and when to centralize a piece and more. I think these courses are among the best that I ever saw. I don't say they are the holy grail. But they gave me a serious understanding and fundament to continue studying the thinking process in chess. Now I am reading Pump Up Your Rating, A. Smith and Chess Strategy for Club Players, Grooten, that also has focus on the thinking process and it's importance. And I am convinced, as said in the video course, that chess is all about the ability to think, more than a having a huge amount knowledge. So one should practice with the ability to think and analyse in the same way you practice with tactics Smile  

GM_TOURNAMENTWINNER
kiwichesskiwi wrote:

This has been a really helpful forum.  I am a novice - very keen in putting in the hours and hoping to really improve my game.  I happened upon Smirnov's courses and was put off by 1.) the voice 2.) the advertising hype 3.) the cost 4.) the ever increasing number of his products - it just has a the feel of a sham (if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, well ... ).  The most interesting thing for me though is this:  Chess.com would be the perfect place to demonstrate the wonders of such a course.  We could look back over the stats of his students (many of whom must be here) and SEE the improvement after them having done his course.  However, that seems not to be the case.  Looking at the stats of those that have messaged me recommending the course or even those on this forum who are suggesting how great it is - I cannot find a single case of a notable improvement in their ratings on chess.com.  I have no doubt that I would learn something from Smirnov but I'm with the cherry catchers and wafflemasters above - If it sounds too good to be true - It probably is.  I'll pass on Igor and go back to Silman.

But have you checked their FIDE rating?

 

SmyslovFan

I went through the people who claimed they used the courses on the first pages of this thread.

Not one showed substantial improvement since 2012.

Ubik42
Wow lol great research!

I started the woodpecker method about 6 weeks ago. I see a little improvement in my chess.com puzzle rating already, maybe people can check back here long after I am dead and see if it works.
korotky_trinity
Yosriv wrote:

Hi everybody!

Has anyone already bought Igor Smirnov's chess course "The Grandmaster's positional understanding"? (Igor Smirnov is rated 2496 Elo, look here

                      

I have Smirnov's course: "The Grandmaster's secrets" and I found it simple to understand and very practical. But if you have any ideas about the previously named course, it will certainly help me a lot. Thank you in advance

Wow ! )

korotky_trinity
blueparrot12345 wrote:

 

Again, chess is not about who knows more information. In fact, knowing more will just confuse you, since you don't even know what to think about.

There is a famous russian proverb.

"The less you know, the more good you sleep".

This proverb was especially actual in Joseph Stalin's times.

 

korotky_trinity
pfren wrote:

There is a Greek proverb which goes like

When you hear about a lot of cherries, then hold a small basket.

The similar russian proverb.

"Believe your eyes... not your years".

korotky_trinity
nameno1had wrote:
Aspiring_Champ wrote:

GM smirnovs courses suck...they are horrible and a complete waste of time....your all right his advertising sucks and his courses have no value...

 

(Im saying this because if every chess player who was interested in or looked at his site purchased...and deeply went through his material.....then everyone would be at least an expert to titled player within 2 years)

 

So *Cough cough* please pass this excellent course up! So that you all dont become champions!

Most likely, you'd have to have personal mentoring from a GM in order for you to become anything special in 2 years. It would most likely require the total dedication of the two of you, in order for it to become reality.

I think that you are missing that it isn't always easy to apply something you have learned right away in chess. You can't always cause the duplication of the circumstances, in order to exercise your newly learned knowledge.

These factors don't necessarily make the teaching works of someone bad. If you bought this material and it didn't seem to help you, you need to understand that there are as many bad students as teachers, if not more. It isn't that they don't try, but that they need someone to more directly show them what to learn and how to apply it. Also It is completely possible that what this guy teaches is correct for a particular style, but just not yours. I hope you find what you are looking for, good luck.

I think that you didn't understand his post.

Champ was just kidding.

korotky_trinity
Andre_Harding wrote:

I recently posted in another forum a high recommendation for some of Smirnov's courses. I purchased all eight of them from 2009 to 2012.

In particular, I recommend Grandmaster's Positional Understanding, Endgame Expert, How to Beat GM, Winning Plan, and Calculate Till Mate.

I am sure that one should watch Smirnov's videos on youtube before buying his course.

But the titles of his courses are very alluring.

DreamscapeHorizons
korotky_trinity wrote:
blueparrot12345 wrote:

 

Again, chess is not about who knows more information. In fact, knowing more will just confuse you, since you don't even know what to think about.

There is a famous russian proverb.

"The less you know, the more good you sleep".

This proverb was especially actual in Joseph Stalin's times.

 

 

I think the American equivalent is "ignorance is bliss".

Ubik42
“The less you know the better you sleep” in Stalin times.

lol

pfren
DreamscapeHorizons wrote:
korotky_trinity wrote:
blueparrot12345 wrote:

 

Again, chess is not about who knows more information. In fact, knowing more will just confuse you, since you don't even know what to think about.

There is a famous russian proverb.

"The less you know, the more good you sleep".

This proverb was especially actual in Joseph Stalin's times.

 

 

I think the American equivalent is "ignorance is bliss".

 

This is not American, but Biblical. I think the official English translation is:

blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

(Matthew 5:3)

chesschainmaster

@pfren Good quote, but should be taken into context.

korotky_trinity

I found the video of Igor Smirnov on youtube.

You can do it easy also.

Ubik42
He was the guy who always said “To takes is a mistake”.

I think that’s good advice if you don’t take it too literally.
dfgh123
Ubik42 wrote:
He was the guy who always said “To takes is a mistake”.

I think that’s good advice if you don’t take it too literally.

Yes I like his YouTube videos, but trying to change your thinking system in chess feels to me like mission Impossible.

Talking-Tom-Cat

I read the comments so I decided to grab a sample e-book of Chess Grandmaster's Positional Understanding by Igor Smirnov. After reading thru I figured that this is too fundamental for me. This is probably because in the past I already read the books: My System by Aron Nimzowitsch and Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy: Advances since Nimzowitsch by John Watson which I would recommend as a good starting point if you want to learn Positional Chess. Having said that, I think I will just skip this and look for more advanced material elsewhere.  

Cadedave

Hi guys I y self have some of his courses and his teaching got e from 700 elo to 1300 in barely 4 months