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Irontiger

So, your answer to poor sportsmanship is making you lose time ?

You're feeding the troll, you know.

 

I don't side with the people that say "hey, it's childish" because somehow they deserved it, but I would never do it either.

bastiaan
grantweep wrote:

Thoughts? So far I haven't actually run out of time myself, although it could definately happen if the dishes take too long to do. Maybe I just have a weird sense of humour.

Please stop playing chess on this website

sisu

Let's make it happen!

steve_bute
Fear_ItseIf wrote:
Caesar_Reborn wrote:
LisaV wrote:

That isn't being a reverse troll.  That's being a dick.

+1

+2

The subject is taxonomy of trolls, not bleating of sheep.

JariIkonen

I agree with OP, if winning by miles and opponent just plain refuses to resign. might as well take some extra moves to mate him with pawns or construct some self-mate scenario. or get queens and sac them for the rest of his army. just leave enough material to mate. =)

transpo

waffllemaster wrote:

Sometimes when I'm completely winning, I'll pass up an obvious mate to go for a prettier mate.  Usually just prolongs it 2 or 3 moves, but I'm sure they're wondering why I didn't just play the mate right away (while I'm wondering why they don't just resign).

But to answer your question, I agree with batgirl.

transpo

waffllemaster wrote:

Sometimes when I'm completely winning, I'll pass up an obvious mate to go for a prettier mate.  Usually just prolongs it 2 or 3 moves, but I'm sure they're wondering why I didn't just play the mate right away (while I'm wondering why they don't just resign).

But to answer your question, I agree with batgirl.

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(while I'm wondering why they don't just resign).

When I was first starting out in chess, NM Mark Ryan told me, if anyone ever asks you to resign just say, "...I would, but jthen I wouldn't get to see your winning technique!..."

Eseles

I consider what happened in a game i played on another site as reverse trolling:

Me and player X start a game

While in the middlegame, i somehow lose a piece, i'm now a knight down. I continue to play, cause at our (me and my opponent's) level it's likely to reverse the situation.

A couple of moves later, player X disconnects!

I'm waiting to see if my opponent will make it before the server gives me the victory.

5 seconds left for him/her to reconnect... Player X is not gonna make it.

I resign the game ;)

zborg

No.  The OP is just being a light-hearted dick.  What's wrong with that?

whirlwind2011

Regardless of the OP's actual intentions of his post, and without addressing whether his suggested actions are juvenile, inappropriate, or offensive, I posit that the advice is bad.

Chess is a competitive game. To win, the best players pursue the ultimate goal--checkmate--tirelessly, ruthlessly, steadfastly, unwaveringly, and with great verve and energy, without ever letting off the pressure.

If someone engages in the antics suggested in the first post, he is no longer competing. He fails to fulfill his objective in the game. He wastes his own time.

Flagrantly postponing mate is hypocritical. Such a player is engaging in exactly the same behavior that he abhors and decries. Further, it is also foolish, because a blunder or miscalculation could result, and it could affect the result of the game.

Most strikingly, such behavior reveals to the opponent that the player's emotions have been roiled and his concentration from the game compromised.

The most sensible action to take against all opponents--whether or not they are good sports--is to play dispassionately and win the game as quickly and efficiently as possible.

waffllemaster
transpo wrote:

waffllemaster wrote:

Sometimes when I'm completely winning, I'll pass up an obvious mate to go for a prettier mate.  Usually just prolongs it 2 or 3 moves, but I'm sure they're wondering why I didn't just play the mate right away (while I'm wondering why they don't just resign).

But to answer your question, I agree with batgirl.

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(while I'm wondering why they don't just resign).

When I was first starting out in chess, NM Mark Ryan told me, if anyone ever asks you to resign just say, "...I would, but jthen I wouldn't get to see your winning technique!..."

I never fault a beginner or someone wanting to learn something for playing till mate.  It's when my opponent plays well enough to make me believe they're experienced that I scratch my head.

ivandh

Oncet I was playing a guy in live, it was Q v Q, dead drawn, but the guy refused an offer... six or seven moves later he blundered and lost.

learningthemoves
ivandh wrote:

Oncet I was playing a guy in live, it was Q v Q, dead drawn, but the guy refused an offer... six or seven moves later he blundered and lost.

Poetic justice.

corrijean
learningthemoves wrote:
ivandh wrote:

Oncet I was playing a guy in live, it was Q v Q, dead drawn, but the guy refused an offer... six or seven moves later he blundered and lost.

Poetic justice.

You took the words out of my keyboard. Smile

Vandarringa

I'd much rather the OP do as he has described when obviously winning, rather than when obviously losing.  I hate when people just let the clock expire for minutes as their choice of how to resign.

splitleaf
Zen wrote:

When reading the OP, I first thought that reverse trolling would be to resign immediately in a completely winning position.

I was disappointed.

Yup, same here.  

Here's a video that could give folks who feel the urge to complain about none-resigners something to think about, 2:45 is where the fun starts.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Nobody ever won a game by resigning!

Eseles
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Nobody ever won a game by resigning!

Sure, but there do exist more important things than winning a game.

Eseles

Here i was down a Rook and threatening his extra Rook (which he could move to safety) when my opponent disconnected... i waited some seconds and seeing that my opponent wasn't re-connecting, i resigned...


What would you have done?.. Wait for a very possible win thanks to the other players disconnection?

PhoenixArisen

I think spending the time to exlain to your opponent how you were able to win would be a much more sportsman thing to do.

You're exactly the kind of person that makes playing chess unattractive to others.