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Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Apr 25, 2018

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#5421

003_faith wrote:

I think Mr Lydumil's claims of a 3000-3500 rating are actually quite modest - he admits that perfect chess would be played at around 10,000 elos, so he's being very humble in admitting his flaws

Indeed.

Your estimate might even be low.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Apr 25, 2018

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#5422

Iam2busy wrote:

Yenny-Leon wrote:

Iam2busy wrote:

If I told you I had a spaceport on Mars, would you believe me?

Straw man argument, the favorite tactic (along with ad hominem) of debaters who lack real evidence to support their argument.

I'm laughing right now...

Well, answer the question. Would you believe me?

I see Lyudmil's claim in the same way.

If you want me to use the "facts and figures" to prove Lyudmil wrong, then you're insane. There's no need for facts and figures when they're right in front of you!

A man who hasn't played chess in years claims to be stronger than a computer than has beaten the world's grandmasters tons of times!

And you believe him.

I never knew people could be so gullible.

He hasn't got a rating or playing performance anything close to a GM, and yet he claims to be 3500, a level higher than GM!

What's wrong with everyone?!?!

You'd be simply out of your mind if you actually believe that this man is a "super-GM"

I'm not attacking Lyudmil, I'm attacking his claims, which seem outright false.

Lyudmil is a polite man, and though his English skills can be made better, he is overall okay.

The one thing I can't stand is someone making an outrageous claim that is obviously false, and then people believing it.

Nothing is wrong or untrue about my claims.

I just suffer from lack of concentration, I hear noises everywhere.

but then, those are real ones, the contemporary world is too noisy, that is it, and made even noisier by expanding machinery.

IM pfren

Apr 25, 2018

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#5423

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov έγραψε:

I already do, unfortunately.

You do so only when there is a power outage.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Apr 25, 2018

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#5424

torrubirubi wrote:

I received today the book TSOC, Example games. I have both a digital and a physical book of both volumes. I need a paper copy because I am planing to right comments on the books.

My goal will be to go through the example games, identify the relevant features discussed in the first volume, and compare what LT says with the explanations by other authors, like Grooten, Euwe, Kotov, Pachman, Watson and some others. I hope so to have a better understanding of strategy, one of my weakest side in chess.

Some things what LT explains in his book are well known, and several patterns are new from me, of course, and seem also not to be mentioned in other books of my library.

Some of his statements are intriguing. I was surprised for example with the diagrams on page 78 and 79 on aligned pawns, which I assessed wrongly (and I can understand now why I often get in troubles when trying to get a “strong center” but without really understanding what I am doing).

LT means that the French is a bad opening, like on page 108, and all the French players get completely crazy. But his explanations are sound to me. Interesting would be what a GM French specialist would say after reading LT’s opinion on this defence.

Now I have everything what I need and I can begin to work with the stuff.

Glad to hear that, Renato.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Apr 25, 2018

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#5425

Man, I forgot to advertise.

Let me post 2 links, so that I make sure I will not starve.

Who will write revolutionary books then?

Here is 'The Secret of Chess': https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Chess-Lyudmil-Tsvetkov/dp/1522041400#reader_1522041400

This is the TOC.

I will probably lower the price for the paperback soon, it does not sell like that.

Many GMs sell books at 25, even 30, even though they are not revolutionary and worse quality, but I should offer rock-bottom prices, that is how it goes.

Free excerpts you can read on my site: www.secretofchess.com

If you are inti tactics puzzles, "Tactical Tal" is the best you can get.

Read an article on the book here: https://www.expert-chess-strategies.com/chess-tactic.html

FromAlphaToOmega

Apr 25, 2018

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#5426

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:

E_Luckov wrote:

So, the author suddenly became a victim. And now on, any question regarding his alleged playing strenght is an empty personal attack. Right...

Let's imagine every single chess author start a thread in every available forum affirming his book is the best ever written... that in his book only you will be able to find that "obscure way" to become a super GM.

Really??

It's not about LT book... it's just one more chess author. Let the people discover how good or bad his book is. This is the only way.

But from the moment someone start with dellusional claims of greatness, don't wait for a passive audience.

I mean, my title is humble - just 'The Secret of Chess'.

Look at other authors:

- "From beginner to grandmaster"

- "Become chess master in 10 days"

- "Positional, tactical, middlegame and endgame secrets of Alekhine, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Nimzovich, Kasparov and Fischer"

- "Winning chess lessons", etc. etc.

I am the humblest of all, obviously.

To be fully honest, I don't think I'd buy any of them. I generally tend to not trust things that sound like they should be in an infomercial or in an "African prince's" email.

m_n0

Apr 25, 2018

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#5427

Just wondering, have any of you read "The System" by Hans Berliner? I bought it out of curiosity about three years ago and seems like an analogous book.

drmrboss

Apr 25, 2018

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#5428

https://www.amazon.com/Combinations-Heart-Chess-Dover/dp/0486217442

It was one of my favourite book that I read in my kid life(Dad's book). Look at the reviews!

lfPatriotGames

Apr 25, 2018

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#5429

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:

Nothing is wrong or untrue about my claims.

I just suffer from lack of concentration, I hear noises everywhere.

but then, those are real ones, the contemporary world is too noisy, that is it, and made even noisier by expanding machinery.

There is nothing untrue about your claim that you are an oracle or a gateway to another dimension? There is nothing untrue about your claim that you are 3500 playing strength?

Is it possible that no matter how much you concentrate, you will still hear noises everywhere? Is it possible that your belief in what you say is caused by how much you feel you can concentrate?

e4_guy

Apr 25, 2018

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#5430

Is there any chance for white to convert material and win this position ?

.

This is my recent daily game, where both me and my opponent agreed that white can't advance as long as black bishop is on e5 square.

Kmatta

Apr 25, 2018

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#5431

e4_guy wrote:

Is there any chance for white to convert material and win this position ?

.

This is my recent daily game, where both me and my opponent agreed that white can't advance as long as black bishop is on e5 square.

No that is a dead draw.

FromAlphaToOmega

Apr 25, 2018

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#5432

@Lyudmil: Now you can play against Komodo here and show that you can beat @Computer_20 on its top setting! (At least, as far as I know.)

stewardjandstewardj

Apr 25, 2018

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#5433

Oh no he can't, he's to busy looking himself up on Google for 4 hours! And the computer will make fun of him!

drmrboss

Apr 25, 2018

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#5434

FromAlphaToOmega wrote:

@Lyudmil: Now you can play against Komodo here and show that you can beat @Computer_20 on its top setting! (At least, as far as I know.)

Just use 1% of common sense. If he is a top GM or stronger than computers, he would be playing in top world tournments and making money from $10,000 or more prizes every month ( rather than selling a chess book to you with $5 or $10)

FromAlphaToOmega

Apr 25, 2018

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#5435

drmrboss wrote:

FromAlphaToOmega wrote:

@Lyudmil: Now you can play against Komodo here and show that you can beat @Computer_20 on its top setting! (At least, as far as I know.)

Just use 1% of common sense. If he is a top GM or stronger than computers, he would be playing in top world tourney and making money from $10,000 or more prizes every months ( rather than selling a chess book to you with $5 or $10)

I was half being sarcastic, half just making sure he knew.

Christopher_Parsons

Apr 26, 2018

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#5436

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:

Christopher_Parsons wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

What is there to attack? We are human we do not think like computers.

Actually computers think like some humans. After all, it was humans who taught them how to think. We all don't think like a GM either. That doesn't mean we can't examine how the computer or the GM was taught how to think and apply it to our own thoughts. This is partially what Lyudmil's book is expressing.

Actually, do you think people in the Middle Ages thought the way we think?

Saw the world in the same way?

Experienced and felt the same?

Of course, NOT, there is a HUGE mental superstructure built in the last 5 or 6 centuries in the human perception.

The man of the Middle Ages thought more with his senses rather than his brain.

We are slowly turning the trend, due to a large amount of formal and informal instruction.

We are more and more mental, computerised, and less so senses-based.

Like it or not.

This might not be immediately evident, but the trend is obvious.

At some point, the average human will be closer to a mental being, computerised system, than a senses-based one.

Of course, some people still live in the Middle Ages.

We are benefactors of compounded knowledge, not just in accepted fact, but we are greater theoreticians than in ages past, simply because we have been awakened to the vastness of what is possible, more so than our ancestors.

Christopher_Parsons

Apr 26, 2018

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#5437

drmrboss wrote:

FromAlphaToOmega wrote:

@Lyudmil: Now you can play against Komodo here and show that you can beat @Computer_20 on its top setting! (At least, as far as I know.)

Just use 1% of common sense. If he is a top GM or stronger than computers, he would be playing in top world tournments and making money from $10,000 or more prizes every month ( rather than selling a chess book to you with $5 or $10)

I could make a good or even better living in several different skilled trades or even in business. I have no desire to work in the others for different reasons. I personally have no desire to travel all over, just for my job, even if the money is good. I don't like being away from my family and as they say, there is no place like home.

hitthepin

Apr 26, 2018

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#5438

LT himself bills the book as having given precise numerical values on several different aspects of the game (pawn structure, activity, etc). This is to me kind of sounds like a chess encyclopedia of sorts, where I can look up a particular aspect of a game to see how much it is worth. Don’t get me wrong - in no way am I insulting Lyumdil’s work. I believe he did put in some effort into this. I just have no need of such a chess book. That is why will not purchase it. And I’m basing this off of what Lyudmil himself said.

Yenny-Leon

Apr 26, 2018

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#5439

@hitthepin, the book is not just tabulations of numbers. There are tables of numbers, but these are intended as evidence to support pattern-recognition, which can be summarized in verbal "rules of thumb" (including new ones not articulated by anyone before). You can ignore the data tables if they don't interest you -- they're intended for programmers to use in tweaking their chess engines, not for rote memorization.

Christopher_Parsons

Apr 26, 2018

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#5440

Yenny-Leon wrote:

@hitthepin, the book is not just tabulations of numbers. There are tables of numbers, but these are intended as evidence to support pattern-recognition, which can be summarized in verbal "rules of thumb" (including new ones not articulated by anyone before). You can ignore the data tables if they don't interest you -- they're intended for programmers to use in tweaking their chess engines, not for rote memorization.

@Yenny_Leon

I see them as also a rough idea of how your position should be valued, should you find yourself in the position or if you choose to play it. There are other factors at work, but it should give you a rough idea as to how it will affect the dynamic evaluation of the positions.