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Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
hitthepin wrote:
Oh a side note. I tapped on your icons a day ago and it showed your profiles. Now I tap on them and nothing happens. Is it just my phone or is it happening to you guys too??

What icons?

Where?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
yureesystem wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
 

About outrageous claims in the English opening, I just posted the Nikolic-Fischer game, shall I repost it, specifically for you?

Fischer has just played e5-e4, and, believe me or not, yes, I do claim it from the bottom of my heart and the maybe 1000 games I have analysed with the top engines with similar pawn structure, black is already won.

- Seriously

- Yes, quite in earnest

- Why so

Because the f2 white shelter pawn is backward, the whole white shelter is inflexible, so playing f2-f3/f2-f4 to get rid of the bind is difficult of impossible, if played, the white shelter will shrink to only 2 pawns, h2 and g3, while the e3 pawn will be weak and a constant target.

The specific pawns structure in the center, d4,c4 vs d6,c6 pawns make opening the game impossible, on c4-c5, black has d6-d5, while on d4-d5, c6-c5, so the game remains closed.

After that, black will regroup, bring more pieces to the king side, use its storming pawns and win, there is no escape; actually, that is what Fischer did. You don't believe Fischer?

 

That game started from the English opening(see game above), with 1.c4, so allowing black to play e5-e4 is really disastrous here. The only way white will not allow that push is by plaing e4 himself. What is so difficult to understand?

Where am I wrong? I have analysed similar structures in 1000 games or so until great depths.

Or maybe Fischer is wrong, as he has played precisely the same structure also with reversed colours, the KIA, shall I post his game against Magmiasuren?

Ok, here it is:

 

 

And here is the vital diagram:

 

 

Fischer has just played e4-e5, getting the very same position with reversed colours: white e5 pawn, black e6,f7 and g7 pawns. This is also already won or very close to winning, and indeed, Fischer won.

Above pattern, I call a central backward-maker, and it has a very wide application in chess.

As in above position the central clamp is bad for black, so is it for white in the English.

 

What is so difficult to understand?

In distinction to you, however, I am always backing my claims with very concrete examples, as I have devoted a tremendous amount of time studying chess scientifically.

 

 

 

 

Your comments, annotation and assessment is superficial; like the Nikolic vs. Fischer Vinkoci 1968 Yugoslavia, you say that white is dead lost after Fischer 9...e4! but you are wrong, black has a slight advantage only. Play through the game again and white has 21.a6! with equality, Nikolic 21.Rh1 is losing. I have played the French for years and met many KIA setup and black is not lost. Nikolic position is reverse French defense and he was outplay by Fischer who was GM to Nikolic with no title and low rating 2222 fide; no wonder Fischer crush Nikolic. 

 

 

 

Your two games you posted and you played Stockfish Feb. 6, 2015 and Komodo Aug. 8, 2016, very poor quality and the two engine played below 1800 fide and I was so surprise that a super GM engines tactics were non-existent, these tactical monster can find tactics in the most driest position but in both your games they lost without a fight.

 In the English Opening is basically a reverse Sicilian, 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.e4 conceded the advantage, black can get a equality with 3...Nc6; GM Larry Christiansen vs. IM Maurice Ashley 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.e4 Bb4 this the reverse Sicilian 5.d3 d6 6.g3 Nd7 7.Bg2 Nf8!? much better and leads to equality is 7...0-0, if black play sensible black can achieve equality. 

 

 

Your assessment given positions are superficial, there is no depth, like in Nikolic vs. Fischer, white is lost; No! White is not lost.

 

Post one diagram, post one single diagram, dear Yuri, then we could discuss.

a6 does not save white at all; we have been analysing this specific position for so long with monstrous hardware and human input on Talkchess forum, that we have exhausted every single line of it.

It is your analysis, or the analysis of the person whose article you have read, most probably, that is wrong. You think Fischer chose that specific setup for no reason? And the reversed French? Come on, Yuri.

Concerning my games, I have to bittely disappoint you, but they are higher quality overall than Kasparov-Deep Blue. And that is easuly verifiable: current top engines easily see and correct many of Deep Blue's moves, while they fail to see and understand most of mine, so your disparaging efforts are fully futile.

You say 21.a6, with very short search, even SF gives +200cps for black, although it starts with white advantage, and that is probably what confused you:

Stockfish 8 64 POPCNT - o, Blitz 2m+2s Microsoft
2r5/p4pk1/2P2bp1/2P5/3PQ3/4PpP1/4qP2/R5K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 8 64 POPCNT:

12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.d6
  -+  (-1.75)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00  0kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.d6 Qxc5
  -+  (-1.75)   Depth: 7/7   00:00:00  0kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qxf3 Qxc5 16.Qe4
  -+  (-1.75)   Depth: 8/8   00:00:00  1kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qg4 Rh8 16.Rd1 Qxc5 17.Qxf3 a4
  -+  (-1.78)   Depth: 9/11   00:00:00  1kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qg4 Rh8 16.Rd1 Qxc5 17.Qxf3 a4 18.d6 a3
  -+  (-1.82)   Depth: 10/13   00:00:00  1kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.d6 Qxc4 18.Rxc4 Rxc6
  -+  (-1.82)   Depth: 11/17   00:00:00  3kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.d6 Qxc4 18.Rxc4 Rxc6 19.Kh2 Rc8
  -+  (-1.82)   Depth: 12/17   00:00:00  3kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Qxb4 axb4 17.Kh2 Bc3 18.Kh3 f5 19.g4 Be5 20.gxf5 gxf5
  -+  (-1.86)   Depth: 13/18   00:00:00  8kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qg4 Rh8 16.Qc4 Qb2 17.Rd1 Qe5 18.Qg4 a4 19.Qxf3 a3 20.Rd2 Qa1+ 21.Rd1
  -+  (-1.95)   Depth: 14/20   00:00:00  21kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Qxb4 axb4 17.Kh2 Bc3 18.Rb1 Kf6 19.Kg1 Rh8 20.c7 Ke7
  -+  (-1.96)   Depth: 15/22   00:00:00  28kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Qxb4 axb4 17.Kh2 Bc3 18.Rb1 Kf6 19.Kg1 Ke7 20.Kh2
  -+  (-1.74)   Depth: 16/22   00:00:00  34kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.Qxb4 axb4 18.Rb1 Bc3 19.Kh2 Kf6 20.Kh3 Kf5 21.Kh2 Ke4 22.d6 Kd5
  -+  (-1.96)   Depth: 17/25   00:00:00  51kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.Qxb4 axb4 18.Rb1 Bc3 19.g4 Kf6 20.Kh2 Be5+ 21.Kg1 Ra8
  -+  (-1.96)   Depth: 18/28   00:00:00  98kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.Qxb4 axb4 18.Rb1 Bc3 19.Kh2 Rh8+ 20.Kg1 Kf6 21.d6 Ke6 22.Rd1 b3 23.d7 Ba5 24.Rb1 Kd5 25.Rxb3 Kxc6 26.e4
  -+  (-2.04)   Depth: 19/28   00:00:00  128kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.Qxb4 axb4 18.Rb1 Bc3 19.Rd1 b3 20.Rb1 b2 21.d6 Rxc6 22.d7 Bf6 23.Rxb2 Rxc5 24.Rd2 Bd8 25.e4 Rc1+ 26.Kh2 Kf6 27.Rd3 Rc4 28.Rxf3+ Ke7 29.e5 Kxd7
  -+  (-1.79)   Depth: 20/35   00:00:00  212kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.Qxb4 axb4 18.Rb1 Bc3 19.Rd1 b3 20.Rb1 b2 21.d6 Rxc6 22.d7 Bf6 23.Rxb2 Rxc5 24.Rd2 Bd8 25.e4 Rc1+ 26.Kh2 Kf6 27.Rd3 Rc4 28.Rxf3+ Ke7 29.Kh3 Rxe4
  -+  (-1.97)   Depth: 21/39   00:00:00  460kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qg4 Rh8 16.Qc4 Qb2 17.Rd1 Qe5 18.Qg4 a4 19.c7 Qxc7 20.Qxa4 Qxc5 21.Qg4 Qc8 22.Qxf3 Qh3 23.d6 Be5 24.d7 Qh2+ 25.Kf1
  -+  (-1.87)   Depth: 22/39   00:00:00  1292kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Rc1 Be5 17.Qxb4 axb4 18.Rb1 Bc3 19.d6 Rxc6 20.d7 Bf6 21.Rxb4 Rxc5 22.Rd4 Bd8 23.Rf4 Rd5 24.Rxf3 Rxd7 25.Rf4 Rd2 26.Ra4 Kf6
  -+  (-2.29)   Depth: 23/39   00:00:02  2697kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Qxb4 axb4 17.Rb1 Bc3 18.d6 Rxc6 19.d7 Bf6 20.Rxb4 Rxc5 21.Rd4 Bd8 22.Rf4 Rd5 23.Rxf3 Bc7 24.e4 Rxd7 25.Rc3 Be5 26.Rc6 Rd3 27.Kg2 Bd4 28.Rc7
  -+  (-2.14)   Depth: 24/39   00:00:02  3619kN
12...a5 13.d5 Qa2 14.Rf1 Qa3 15.Qc4 Qb4 16.Qxb4 axb4 17.Rb1 Bc3 18.d6 Rxc6 19.d7 Bf6 20.Rxb4 Rxc5 21.Rd4 Bd8 22.Rf4 Rd5 23.Rxf3 Bc7 24.e4 Rxd7 25.Rb3 Kf6 26.f4 Rd2 27.Rb7 Rc2 28.Kf1 Ke6 29.e5 Kd5 30.Ra7
  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 25/39   00:00:03  4366kN

(, Microsoft 08.12.2017)

So, do your homework better.

 

I don't know what game of mine you are talking about, please post a diagram.

No tactics there, of course, that is the whole trick, the closed systems of play I employ decisively prevent any engine tactics, as simply tactics are very rare or even unexistent in a range of blocked structures. So again, just do your homework better.

As said, my games are higher quality than Deep Blue-Kasparov.

 

If you rely on Mr. Ashley to tell you the truth for certain things, well, he is too weak for that.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
breakingbad12 wrote:

yureesystem, how dare you!? Never question the (self-proclaimed) god of chess Lyudmil_Tsvetkov.

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Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
yureesystem wrote:
breakingbad12 wrote:

yureesystem, how dare you!? Never question the (self-proclaimed) god of chess Lyudmil_Tsvetkov.

 

 

 

lol  Lyudmil is god of chess in own mind. Normally I just ignore delusional chess players but I would want a chess player thinking that Lyudmil has the "chess secrets", any 1800 fide will recognize he has nothing to offer concerning chess knowledge. He really think he can beat Scockfish, Komodo and now AlphaZero; if he that strong prove it and play here, if he starts beating GMs and Carlsen then I can believe he has something to offer.

And then you can even buy my book. happy.png

1800 players are not able to judge the play of much stronger ones, but the opposite is true.

So basically, your statements are paradoxical.

Why do you think you are stronger than GM Smerdon? :

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/smurfo/the-secret-of-chess

If I am using new chess language, then I have new things to offer, too.

But I guess you slowly start seeing the truth and in a short while will be convinced...

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
yureesystem wrote:

Someone ask Lyudmil his target readers and he never answer the question. non-title Lyudmil is surprise there is very little interested, well, first you don't have a title and that mean no credibility. When a GM share his knowledge its from his studies and experiences; I would rather buy Chess Praxis by Nimzovitch and learn something of value than to buy Chess Secrets by Lyudmil  and his ridiculous and outrageous claims. Look at his ridiculous explanation on Nikolic vs Fischer and why black is winning and its only a slight advantage for black; ask any GM and they will laugh at his claim black is winning. Nikolic vs Fischer game is very simple, black has more space because of 9...e4 and attack chances and if black doesn't use temporary advantage he will lose it. Let me ask you chess players a logical question, how can white be lost after 9...e4, look at post # 134 and position: white attack on the queen side and black on the king side and with best play its a draw. White could of achieve equality but he miss 21.a6! and played 21.Rh1? and lost.

 

 

 No one right now has any chess secrets, not even Carlsen; they might know more and have deep understanding but give any 2500 elo GM and he can understand Carlsen's games and annotated for us amateurs and we can have deeper appreciation of Carlsen's move, and its depth and beauty. Chess engine cannot tell us why Carlsen made that move and why, only a GM.

Man, when will you stop posting BS?

'Chess Praxis'/'Chess System' is good, but its concepts outdated and a lot of its assessments imprecise.

Ok, let's post here Nikolic-Fischer before white's 21st move:

 

You want to analyse it?

I already posted SF output, which shows +200cps black advantage in 12 moves' time, but, if you are not satisfied, we could do a more thorough analysis.

On a6, I play Nf3 check:

 

It's your move.

 

And you will promise me one thing: in case white loses this, you will never again post disparaging comments about my chess understanding and chess games.

Deal?

usmansk

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

GWTR
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

"In my country, book buys you."

 

--Yakov Smirnoff

GWTR
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

usmansk
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

I have a hobby of reading chess books happy.png but still a very bad player, might be because I am too old
I have read solitis pawn structure chess, and  Rios "Chess structures: A grandmaster guide". I will try pawn power as well. But after reading review of Tsvetkov's book and alhpa zero success, my assumption that it is impossible to beat stockfish is broken.  Most importantly, alpha zero was only evaluating 80k moves whereas stockfish was evaluating 70 million moves per second. This affirms that stockfish evaluation still is not perfect. So why not, give this book a try. Might be someone else can translate his methodology to a human level

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

I should study the science of flags, vexicology or what was it called?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

In what way precisely, if it is not a secret, dear GWTR?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
usmansk wrote:
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

I have a hobby of reading chess books  but still a very bad player, might be because I am too old
I have read solitis pawn structure chess, and  Rios "Chess structures: A grandmaster guide". I will try pawn power as well. But after reading review of Tsvetkov's book and alhpa zero success, my assumption that it is impossible to beat stockfish is broken.  Most importantly, alpha zero was only evaluating 80k moves whereas stockfish was evaluating 70 million moves per second. This affirms that stockfish evaluation still is not perfect. So why not, give this book a try. Might be someone else can translate his methodology to a human level

Perfect chess is at 5000-6000 elos or so.

Current top engines are at 3200 or so on single core.

So maybe, we are just in the middle.

If you have followed the freely available games from Alpha-SF match, 80% were decided already in the early opening, where Alpha used its simulated book, even fianchettoeing its kingside bishop with Bg2, something current top engines almost fully misunderstand, while SF made 2 significant opening mistakes till move 6 on average in almost every game.

So, SF, at its current stage of development, is actually very bad.

Alpha is even worse on a single core, 300-400 elos or so below, but its chess on this tremendous hardware was really somewhat above SF.

 

I have played some games and won some against the top engines, and there are some good games among those published in my books, but you won't believe what incredible positions I have seen while analysing. Unfortunately, I have never been able to reproduce them in my blitz/fast games.

So there is really something very special beyond, above 3200 elos of SF, above 3300 of Alpha on that hardware, and also way way above 4000 elos.

Some tremendous chess is in store for us, but we should make some effort to understand it.

 

usmansk
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
usmansk wrote:
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

I have a hobby of reading chess books  but still a very bad player, might be because I am too old
I have read solitis pawn structure chess, and  Rios "Chess structures: A grandmaster guide". I will try pawn power as well. But after reading review of Tsvetkov's book and alhpa zero success, my assumption that it is impossible to beat stockfish is broken.  Most importantly, alpha zero was only evaluating 80k moves whereas stockfish was evaluating 70 million moves per second. This affirms that stockfish evaluation still is not perfect. So why not, give this book a try. Might be someone else can translate his methodology to a human level

Perfect chess is at 5000-6000 elos or so.

Current top engines are at 3200 or so on single core.

So maybe, we are just in the middle.

If you have followed the freely available games from Alpha-SF match, 80% were decided already in the early opening, where Alpha used its simulated book, even fianchettoeing its kingside bishop with Bg2, something current top engines almost fully misunderstand, while SF made 2 significant opening mistakes till move 6 on average in almost every game.

So, SF, at its current stage of development, is actually very bad.

Alpha is even worse on a single core, 300-400 elos or so below, but its chess on this tremendous hardware was really somewhat above SF.

 

I have played some games and won some against the top engines, and there are some good games among those published in my books, but you won't believe what incredible positions I have seen while analysing. Unfortunately, I have never been able to reproduce them in my blitz/fast games.

So there is really something very special beyond, above 3200 elos of SF, above 3300 of Alpha on that hardware, and also way way above 4000 elos.

Some tremendous chess is in store for us, but we should make some effort to understand it.

 

I have a suggestion, I hope you will not feel bad. 
Try to discuss, your methodology with someone like Jeremy Silman or anyone else who have written many books on chess that are easier to understand. In this, you both can come with an updated version of your book and that can sell better as well. In current form, I am thinking it will be hard to read as you are not the regular author so the book has become little too difficult to understand. However, I would like to give it a try but unfortunately, I am not able to buy it from my country tear.png

usmansk
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
usmansk wrote:
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

I have a hobby of reading chess books  but still a very bad player, might be because I am too old
I have read solitis pawn structure chess, and  Rios "Chess structures: A grandmaster guide". I will try pawn power as well. But after reading review of Tsvetkov's book and alhpa zero success, my assumption that it is impossible to beat stockfish is broken.  Most importantly, alpha zero was only evaluating 80k moves whereas stockfish was evaluating 70 million moves per second. This affirms that stockfish evaluation still is not perfect. So why not, give this book a try. Might be someone else can translate his methodology to a human level

Perfect chess is at 5000-6000 elos or so.

Current top engines are at 3200 or so on single core.

So maybe, we are just in the middle.

If you have followed the freely available games from Alpha-SF match, 80% were decided already in the early opening, where Alpha used its simulated book, even fianchettoeing its kingside bishop with Bg2, something current top engines almost fully misunderstand, while SF made 2 significant opening mistakes till move 6 on average in almost every game.

So, SF, at its current stage of development, is actually very bad.

Alpha is even worse on a single core, 300-400 elos or so below, but its chess on this tremendous hardware was really somewhat above SF.

 

I have played some games and won some against the top engines, and there are some good games among those published in my books, but you won't believe what incredible positions I have seen while analysing. Unfortunately, I have never been able to reproduce them in my blitz/fast games.

So there is really something very special beyond, above 3200 elos of SF, above 3300 of Alpha on that hardware, and also way way above 4000 elos.

Some tremendous chess is in store for us, but we should make some effort to understand it.

 

What important to me is that alpha was evaluating a much smaller number of positions per second as compared to stockfish and still evaluating the position better. Therefore, your point of view is validated in my opinion. Moreover, alpha has also validated your views on c4 and French defense. All this is making me curious about your methodology that how you are evaluating?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
usmansk wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
usmansk wrote:
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

I have a hobby of reading chess books  but still a very bad player, might be because I am too old
I have read solitis pawn structure chess, and  Rios "Chess structures: A grandmaster guide". I will try pawn power as well. But after reading review of Tsvetkov's book and alhpa zero success, my assumption that it is impossible to beat stockfish is broken.  Most importantly, alpha zero was only evaluating 80k moves whereas stockfish was evaluating 70 million moves per second. This affirms that stockfish evaluation still is not perfect. So why not, give this book a try. Might be someone else can translate his methodology to a human level

Perfect chess is at 5000-6000 elos or so.

Current top engines are at 3200 or so on single core.

So maybe, we are just in the middle.

If you have followed the freely available games from Alpha-SF match, 80% were decided already in the early opening, where Alpha used its simulated book, even fianchettoeing its kingside bishop with Bg2, something current top engines almost fully misunderstand, while SF made 2 significant opening mistakes till move 6 on average in almost every game.

So, SF, at its current stage of development, is actually very bad.

Alpha is even worse on a single core, 300-400 elos or so below, but its chess on this tremendous hardware was really somewhat above SF.

 

I have played some games and won some against the top engines, and there are some good games among those published in my books, but you won't believe what incredible positions I have seen while analysing. Unfortunately, I have never been able to reproduce them in my blitz/fast games.

So there is really something very special beyond, above 3200 elos of SF, above 3300 of Alpha on that hardware, and also way way above 4000 elos.

Some tremendous chess is in store for us, but we should make some effort to understand it.

 

I have a suggestion, I hope you will not feel bad. 
Try to discuss, your methodology with someone like Jeremy Silman or anyone else who have written many books on chess that are easier to understand. In this, you both can come with an updated version of your book and that can sell better as well. In current form, I am thinking it will be hard to read as you are not the regular author so the book has become little too difficult to understand. However, I would like to give it a try but unfortunately, I am not able to buy it from my country

Why should I feel bad, your suggestion is reasonable.

I myself plan on releasing a second part at some point, that will include a large sample of world champion and top engine games, explaining in detail the different terms. Also, getting rid of numbers and substituting them for human interpretations.

The game collection will undoubtedly only be of use.

What concerns the human assessments instead of numbers, this will make the book more 'readable', but will definitely significantly decrease its precision. Those numbers are simply necessary there, on each and every square for some terms.

I still wonder how useful human assessments of the type 'unclear position' are?

What the hell does that mean?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
usmansk wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
usmansk wrote:
GWTR wrote:
usmansk wrote:

after Alpha zero's success, I am getting more interested in this book. But unable to buy it from my country: (

Are you able to view this excerpt?

http://www.secretofchess.com/files/17772/ckfinder/images/pawns-exc.pdf

 

I just read it in conjunction with chapter 1, sections 13-17, of Pawn Power in Chess - https://www.scribd.com/read/271583256/Pawn-Power-in-Chess

 

I am impressed. 

I have a hobby of reading chess books  but still a very bad player, might be because I am too old
I have read solitis pawn structure chess, and  Rios "Chess structures: A grandmaster guide". I will try pawn power as well. But after reading review of Tsvetkov's book and alhpa zero success, my assumption that it is impossible to beat stockfish is broken.  Most importantly, alpha zero was only evaluating 80k moves whereas stockfish was evaluating 70 million moves per second. This affirms that stockfish evaluation still is not perfect. So why not, give this book a try. Might be someone else can translate his methodology to a human level

Perfect chess is at 5000-6000 elos or so.

Current top engines are at 3200 or so on single core.

So maybe, we are just in the middle.

If you have followed the freely available games from Alpha-SF match, 80% were decided already in the early opening, where Alpha used its simulated book, even fianchettoeing its kingside bishop with Bg2, something current top engines almost fully misunderstand, while SF made 2 significant opening mistakes till move 6 on average in almost every game.

So, SF, at its current stage of development, is actually very bad.

Alpha is even worse on a single core, 300-400 elos or so below, but its chess on this tremendous hardware was really somewhat above SF.

 

I have played some games and won some against the top engines, and there are some good games among those published in my books, but you won't believe what incredible positions I have seen while analysing. Unfortunately, I have never been able to reproduce them in my blitz/fast games.

So there is really something very special beyond, above 3200 elos of SF, above 3300 of Alpha on that hardware, and also way way above 4000 elos.

Some tremendous chess is in store for us, but we should make some effort to understand it.

 

What important to me is that alpha was evaluating a much smaller number of positions per second as compared to stockfish and still evaluating the position better. Therefore, your point of view is validated in my opinion. Moreover, alpha has also validated your views on c4 and French defense. All this is making me curious about your methodology that how you are evaluating?

Of course, selectivity is the future.

If you trace down the development of chess engines in the last maybe 70 years or so, with small oscillations, they have only become more and more selective, both in their search, by exploring less moves, and their evaluation, by assessing separate nodes/positions in more refined ways and thus avoiding the trap of calculating suboptimal lines.

Concerning my evaluation, well, maybe I have good memory, as have learned many languages, and like original stuff, which is what computer chess offers. When you start analysing all day long for a number of years, you certainly recognise some patterns that are winning/drawing games. The more you analyse, the more you recognise.

Well, I guess that at some point you like to think more than to feel; when this stage comes, the rest is simple: you are more a machine than human.

 

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
hitthepin wrote:
Besides, Lydumil, what do you expect if you’re unrated and claiming that you’re the best chess player in the world. If you played some games here, it would give you more credibility. I know that you did that you aren’t going to do anything in this site because you don’t care about our opinions. That’s not true. You obviously care about our opinions, otherwise you wouldn’t have tried to market your book to us. I’m not trying to put you down. I’m just saying, what did you expect people to do?

The never-ending story...

There are some people who like my work.

I don't mind the detractors at all, as long as they are objective and clearly point out what could be wrong.

What I really don't like is negating everything, just because...

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
hitthepin wrote:
And I spelled your name wrong :(

That is a God-given punishment.

cellomaster8
hitthepin wrote:
And I spelled your name wrong :(


That is a God-given punishment.


Wtf is this?
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
hitthepin wrote:
This is why you should pick an easy username (such as my own).

3 consonants one after the other: very easy.