The skinny on ChessNetwork (ELO 3000 quick)

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immortalgamer

So this guy (network?) is now rated 3000 in quick games.  I don't know anything about programing programs to run in a chess site, but it causes a lot of discussion in the live chess area about whether or not this is a human or a computer.  I really don't know as the user has had some losses.  However with that stated the user has over 700 wins in a row.  That is just god-like.  Is it possible?  I would like everyone to weigh in on this.  I know the guy is supposed to be a N.M, but hey that is way way above the level of a National Master. (That is super GM lightning).

Someone who is (Chess Network) also does training videos, but that doesn't really mean anything.  From what some people are saying in the chat area is it is very easy to program a chess computer to interface with Chess.com live.

dwaxe

You've been here pretty long. You've seen the threads with the link to here.

immortalgamer

Not nessasary.  Isn't the point of the thread. 

Beelzebub666

Interesting question, I wasn't aware of the possibility of a chess bot in live chess.  What say the moderators/computer nerds? Is it feasible?

joshstr43299

Makes sense to me. More so than 700 games without a loss. However, his blitz does show some losses recently

shuttlechess92

Jealous now, are you Immortal? =)

dwaxe

It's certainly feasible to make a chess engine run on live chess.

However, one would need to do a computer analysis of his games to find out the truth.

joshstr43299

I don't know, he has that rating in quick. It would be difficult to have an engine processing that fast I would think

Oracle11

I know they do it on yahoo where they have an engine playing the moves for them in those 1 minute games. I'm pretty sure such people would be caught on here.

In all likely hood the guy (or girl) is probably IM strength but hasn't made the norms/rating level yet (or hasn't competed in a while), thus only has the NM title... it happens quite often.

bondiggity

Reason why I say no:

1) Same opening all the time, if computer was programmed to do this, moves would be made much faster.

2) d4 opening, computer would want e4.

3) Seems to be quite positionally aware, not just plain tactical wins.

4) This recent game: (CN plays white)

 

bondiggity
GamesForLife wrote:

its also interesting to note that there are a lot of good blitz players (like myself) that he avoids playing.   that would be a strategy if you were you using a bot as you wouldnt play anyone with a higher rating than you have set.  i'm not necessarily saying he is using one, but i do find that to be somewhat curious.


Maybe he doesn't like playing blitz that much? Maybe he doesn't want to be cheated himself, as it is easy for somebody to just sit down with a chess engine and live chess open at the same time at slower time controls. 

flyingplant

All I know is while I'm certainly not the greatest player it's extremely impressive(and I think improbable) to have a rating that high in quick.

snits

Perhaps this is the person in question: http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12562277

Niven42

That's good and all, but what's the point?  I mean, if you're not gonna make the moves yourself, then how can you enjoy that achievement?  Or does this guy's computer have feelings (as well as want to play chess all the time)?

billy87

3000 quick rating. ChessNetwork rocks!

fuze22

the better the player the higher the rating. with such a small group of online players you get some that are very high, the best player can go past 3000 with no one to beat them. the more players the less gap between the highest and lowest rating.

think of it this way. just two players play it out and one is better then the other. eventually the better one will have a big lead on the other. add more players and the gap gets less and less.

 the online chess community with the most titled players and tons of other very good players still has some people with over 3000 rating.

lkjqwerrrreeedd

if i were doing something like that it would be to collect consistent data on an opening which would be alot easier if you had an engine to constantly play for you.

kohai

Please read eriks forum post folks.

Smartattack

Just a small correction to the title, we can t call it properly 3000 ELO...it s chess.com ranking.

Eniamar

it's 3000 Glicko, however elo doesn't imply FIDE or USCF rating either. Elo is simply the name of the rating system most often used to calculate player strength.

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