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They say Chess is not a sport!
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Sounds like an awful lot of justification for something that isnt true. Someone once told me you can say anything about anything and make it sound plausible if not believable.
Ask your prime minister.
the question is: is arguing over such a thing worthwhile considering there will be no satisfying conclusion?
Wojytla wrote:
Sounds like an awful lot of justification for something that isnt true. Someone once told me you can say anything about anything and make it sound plausible if not believable.
Should we not listen to reasoning then? I find myself very much favouring the points outlined above to your blunt statement "Something that isnt[sic] true".
You offer no counter arguement.
It's a sport of the mind. Mental gymnastics if you will. I supposed I exercise my elbow a bit. I would say it's a sport: It is a game played by rules, can be played by teams, has global competitions, requires game strategies ans tactics, but thank god we don't have to wear team uniforms.
I prove you wrong, cause following your idea, studying mathematics would be a sport..
chess is a game, relax lol
who cares
Are we going to be seeing Chess matches in the next olympics ? If it is a sport as you claim then why not ? Will there be a Men's and a Ladies competition like most Olympic sports ?
The word "sport" is very interesting in itself. Some people think that in order to be a "sport" an activity must involve physical exertion. That eliminates chess, billiards, shooting, auto racing (pretty much), and golf (pretty much). Some people think that a sport must involve skill. That eliminates long-distance running, long-distance swimming, . . . anything that is based entirely or primarily on endurance (pretty much).
A "sporting man" is a guy who likes to bet on things, usually anything. If competing for money makes something a "sport," then sports where the players get primarly paid in advance under contracts--like baseball, basketball, and football--would have to take back seats to golf, where you don't make a dime unless you score in the top half of the tournament field.
A "good sport" is someone who can be joked about without taking it personally. "Sporting chances" means both sides have opportunities to win.
People who hunt deer think that's a sport, but it wouldn't qualify as "sporting" unless the deer had rifles on their side, too. How about this: They issue green permits to twenty hunters to enter a particular area. Their job is to spread out and protect deer. Then they issue orange permits to twenty hunters to go into the area to hunt deer. The guys with the green permits could shoot back at the guys with the orange ones. Now that would be "sporting." It'd make great TV, too.
As for chess . . . sport, game, profession, hobby, . . . I don't care. It's a competition based on non-verbal reasoning, whatever else you want to call it.
Along these same lines as the original post....smoking pot does require some sort of effort, encourages thought and makes you hungry and thus must be a sport?
It is ok that it is a game. It does not have to be bigger than it is.
Lord-Svenstikov wrote:
Wojytla wrote:
Sounds like an awful lot of justification for something that isnt true. Someone once told me you can say anything about anything and make it sound plausible if not believable.
Should we not listen to reasoning then? I find myself very much favouring the points outlined above to your blunt statement "Something that isnt[sic] true".
You offer no counter arguement.
Well this is the very argument people use when they make a point that they know has no acceptable conclusion. It is difficult to prove the obvious to someone who wont accept that two plus two is four. Having said that this is not an overly important point. Sport or not chess is a great game and I enjoy it immensely as do most Chess.com members(except maybe cheater1)
This argument cites a definition of sport as physical exertion, and proceeds very thoroughly that chess is a game of great mental exertion, bringing up the expenditure of energy as proof of this exertion. These two points I accept. The author may now proceed to demonstrate whether or not mental exertion is physical exertion, a connection which I currently fail to notice.
As a side note, this is logical debate not science, until we go out and test a hypothesis we've developed.
And, Svenstikov, if you are going to use "[sic]" on a web forum, you should seek to avoid making errors of your own.
Your argument contradicts itself... You are making the argument that energy consumption iss equivalent to physical excertion. Therefore, your cells' daily metabolic processes are "physical excertion". Futhermore, according to your argument, a bed-ridden person performs physical excertion. Clearly this is not the case, as any mother would say to a child to stays indoors all day. When somebody says "exercise" do they say solve math problems? Give me a break. Is this is the moder 21st certury's pitiful and embarassing excuse for exercise then maybe I would rather not be associated with it. Chess is a game which requires no physical excertion. For example, bed-ridded people can communicate to nearby person what move they would like to make without actually TOUCHING THE PIECE AT ALL. A GM does not need to actually move the pieces to beat you, unlike in physical sports. With any logic and common sense one would realize that chess is not a sport by terms of scientific analysis and observation.
1) One does not need to move pieces to play
2) The entire game can be played by memory if both players have a good enough memory, therefore a chess board and pieces are not even needed.
By these two truths... Chess is not a Sport. Now on to the next topic? And leaving this for dust? (please)
// Pretty Please!?!?!?
I think nimbleswitch made a good point about this lol.
Trying to define the word sport is sort of like trying to define the word up.
Most people would say that up means "above" or something of that nature, but when I "show up" for my chess game, am I above my opponent?? What am I above when I "dress-up" for some occasion?? The examples go on and on, but the point is, people with one definition are going to think one thing, and people with another will obviously think another.
Could be an interesting point to debate if people aren't dumb about it. Keep the constructive and argumentative comments running people!
Sport, is an activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
Chess:
Now, Physical exertion. What is that suppose to mean?
I looked up into the dictionary and here is what I got: The act or an instance of exerting, especially a strenuous effort.
Can I not see that in chess? Heck yeah! Chess involves amazing thinking skill, even though some people say GMs use their routins. Thinking does require energy. It is the same as other sports like basketball, baseball, hockey and others, the difference is the way they use energy.
Why is blillard a sport? Poking a ball with a stick? I have no idea why blillard is even a sport.
Anyway, chess does require energy. We always think, but when we are facing difficult task or challenges, we tend to use our brain cells more often than other parts of the body! Where is the energy from? Sugar. Sugar gives us fullness which means keep us away from hunger.
After an extreme sport like hockey, we feel hungry because we burn out most of the sugar inside us. Same as thinking. I even confirmed thsi with my biology teacher. It happens in real life: I sat at my math classroom after my delicious lunch (Not ordinary, it is like 2x of a normal person's lunch). After class I began to feel hungry. Math is like chess, we do get hungry as we think.
Sport burns out energy, it only depends on the process of how. Chess is a sport. Science proves this! Math is also a sport becuase it is competitive and have rules. Rules? Am I joking you all? No! Rules are the equations and the steps you have to follow.
PS: This is for all you people who do not think chess is a sport. Oh, why are some chess players overweight? Thats because they sit in the chair the whole day. Chess can burn away energy but not fat (Some but not all). If they don't move around, fat will build up and that creates obesity. Also, the way people eat is affective. From the age of 6-17(Present), no matter how much I eat I don't get . . . over weighted. Because I play and think at the same time. Now, I am beginning to move towards obesity (Which I am not, right now) because I can't move around, Canada is not that good of a place . . . .
Thanks for reading, prove me wrong, with science if you may!