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Elubas wrote:
Salaskan wrote:

What's bugging me the most is that these games are played for fun. I could imagine playing on in a serious game hoping for a swindle because you could save your standing in a competition, but here there's nothing on the line and playing on isn't fun for the winner nor for the loser.


Well, maybe some people want their games to be tough fights as that is part of what chess is. Some players who do not play in tournaments may need to rely on these games as their loose measurements of skill; you cannot really speak for everyone as to why and how they want to play here.


 you are 100% right. but some people even call it swindle if Tactics trainer shows a way to draw a "losing" position.

if you are on the edge of winning you are also on the edge of losing the win...(qoute: Josh Waitzkin )

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On one hand if i am badly defeating an opponent i feel that he should  graciously resign. If  I, on the other hand am getting badly defeated by my opponent, I will graciously.....fight to the bitter end.

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gbidari wrote: I feel your pain bro. There's a guy at our club that plays out lost games to mate. These types will sooner or later have to deal with karma. For example, one day when he was crossing the street I saw him getting hit in the back of the head by a giant water balloon. He fell face first into the curb and died.
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Live chess is about "time" if you are a rook up good then checkmate him quickly or I will win by 'time' by moving my pieces faster to confuse you or whatever no such thing as resign in live chess but yes is it a good gamemanship to resign in a lost game. 

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hey frenchie, i'd take that post a lot more seriously if you had posted gay erotica pics with it.

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Salaskan wrote: "sometimes because they don't even understand English". Surprised

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Andy_18 wrote:
kco wrote:

Live chess is about "time" if you are a rook up good then checkmate him quickly or I will win by 'time' by moving my pieces faster to confuse you or whatever no such thing as resign in live chess but yes is it a good gamemanship to resign in a lost game. 


Good gamesmanship would be using whatever dubious methods are avaliable to gain a victory. I think you mean good sportsmanship.


 no, a lot of people here say chess is not a sport is just a game so "gamesmanship"

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Spot on. Sportsmanship and gamesmanship are antonyms to a degree and both can apply to either games or sports.
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yeah yeah you guys are right whatever.

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i think sportsmanship only applies when duck hunting is involved.

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it would have been cool to win one pawn and then report my opponent and win. very annoying for gambiteersCool

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tigergutt wrote:

it would have been cool to win one pawn and then report my opponent and win. very annoying for gambiteers


LOL!

Well it is certainly not that kind of positions that are in question.

Actually there is one thing one needs to take in consideration, and that is that chess players often have a tendency to over-estimate their own position and under-estimate their opponent's position.

Especially rook end games can be difficult. Below are some examples where you have to be extreemly good in order to be able to make a correct evaluation on who is winning or whether it is a drawn position.

The positions are almost identical. White is up a rook. Black just has 3 pawns, and 2 of them are on the same file (double pawns). Many players could very well believe that these positions are easy wins for white (if white's king was closer to the left corner it would indeed be easier). The first position is a draw, the second one is a black win, the third one is a white win and the fourth one is a black win. Note who has the move, because that makes a huge difference. Check them out on nalimov: http://www.k4it.de/index.php?topic=egtb&lang=en

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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White is down a rook and still it is black who is losing. it was analyzed by a GM Gregory Kaidanov great game by retired danish GM Curt Hansen. born 1964. He won easily in 15 moves after the position.

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playing on in a lost position is meaningless unless your opponent is <900 in rating.

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IMDeviate wrote:
Samurai-X wrote:

I don't find this to be a problem. Generally, higher rated players, maybe 1600+, will resign in lost positions. If not, there are multiple ways that this can be made not to be a problem. You can start another game, open up a window on the side to practice tactics, take a break to grab a snack, etc. I generally have the television on so this isn't a problem at all for me.


Actually only premium members can play more than one live game at a time. And I'd be careful about switching window focus or leaving the board...the other player may use that opportunity to pull a fast one on you.


 I'm not a premium member, but I had two games started at once accidentally. That was the only time I've ever aborted a game so far. I wasn't going to try to play two 1|0 games at the same time. One game was a new seek, and the other was a rematch.

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Chess4001 wrote:

playing on in a lost position is meaningless unless your opponent is <900 in rating.


I agree if the position is completely lost but can you correctly evaluate when a position is completely lost I can if I have a lonely king against an army but else?

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I have posted it before and some say you should resign a rook down - here I win by tactic I thought was 100% sure my opponent could have gotten away but I won.
a tactic can win the day because humans are not computers.My opponent was rated 3-400 points higher than me and usually sees everything. played over the board and I had to try this as a last attempt.

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bobbyDK wrote:

I have posted it before and some say you should resign a rook down - here I win by tactic I thought was 100% sure my opponent could have gotten away but I won.
a tactic can win the day because humans are not computers.My opponent was rated 3-400 points higher than me and usually sees everything. played over the board and I had to try this as a last attempt.


 the ironic is that guidelines say you should resign then you could beat a master
however in my game I think I could have beaten a master if I played against my pieces easily instead of queening  I would have played Qxg4+ exchanging queens. afterwards queen. I might even give up my new queen to take the rook. ending up with a lone rook. winning. but this is otb.

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a rook is a rook but are you as solid?

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