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sisu wrote:
Haha I laugh at those who say "best ever" based on some number. When he's been WORLD CHAMPION for 15 years, then we'll see.
I don't think people are saying he's the best based on a number. but rather his dominance in a time of great competition. And while I'm not sure if he's the best or not either, there's no need to be so condescending to those who do.
Let's make it happen!
Sure enough, Magnus isn't "the greatest ever". A handful of other players may claim that title (some not, as they have passed away).
But the sheer quality of his play is phenomenal, in the whole history of chess. How can we say it- Capablanca on steroids with Kasparov fighting spirit, maybe?
He is the greatest for our time now and he is young and has the potential to be as great as say Kasparov or Fischer or Karpov.
He's certainly not the greatest, be he may very well be the strongest. Greatest should always be based on achievements, not level of play. He's only 22 though so who knows what he can achieve.
Estragon wrote:
The Monday game to watch in London: Kramnik-Carlsen.
Yes, I hope Kramnik wins! :) My choise after Kasparov! :)
Looks like Carlsen should be happy with a draw from here (vs Kramnik).
Dec 3, 2012
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MSC157 wrote:
Estragon wrote:
The Monday game to watch in London: Kramnik-Carlsen.
Yes, I hope Kramnik wins! :) My choise after Kasparov! :)
it might be draw, just watching the game. if he draws; how many elo points will he shed away?
Dec 3, 2012
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#31
God forbid he draws, he had a rough game tonight but caught up for now (in move 37... Kf7)!
grandbrother wrote:
God forbid he draws, he had a rough game tonight but caught up for now (in move 37... Kf7)!
What? A draw is the absolute best case scenario right now, unless Kramnik has a heart attack.
Dec 3, 2012
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#33
seems VK runing out of time. watching this game(round 3 VK-MC was like waiting a paint get dry)
Dec 3, 2012
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sisu wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Carlsen is the best ever. And now it's official.
The point is: ask yourself what they did in their chess to get that number. Magnus is no where near as GREAT as Karpov or Kasparov. He has potential for sure, but to say "best ever" just means that you haven't seen the others before him.
How many games have YOU lost in the past 12 months? Is it perhaps more than one??
That's the number I'm talking about. I have no idea what number you may be talking about.
Dec 3, 2012
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#38
Nigel Short is the most borish person in chess. His commentating today was quite unbearable, in my view.
Dec 3, 2012
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#39
In my opinion, I believe Aronian just lost a pawn with Ne7??.
Is this true???
I expect more from the 2nd best in the world... :)
Dec 3, 2012
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#40
pfren wrote:
Sure enough, Magnus isn't "the greatest ever". A handful of other players may claim that title (some not, as they have passed away).
But the sheer quality of his play is phenomenal, in the whole history of chess. How can we say it- Capablanca on steroids with Kasparov fighting spirit, maybe?
No, a positional computer. (a computer that can play well positionally)
The Monday game to watch in London: Kramnik-Carlsen.
Not to mention that Kramnik and Carlsen are both leading. A draw is only way for both of them to stay in the ahead, and we haven't been seeing many draws lately.