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RobboThe1st
is it not time something be done about the Swiss tournaments. last one I enter 3 players won all their 5 games (me not included) yet someone wins a gold, silver and bronze. I understand it calculated on who you drawn against and how many games they win but is it not stupid that someone can win every game and still come second or third. There are a number of ways this can be avoided such as increasing the the number of rounds if there are a huge amount of entries or having a play off. For me the way these Swiss tournaments are decided is just so trivial.
RobboThe1st

It's basically ridiculous. You get no choice on who you drawn against, can go out and win every match yet still not win the tournament. Thats so out of date or unfair. It's just mickey mouse.

RobboThe1st

And it is just plain stupid because with the current tournament rules you can play a tournament win every game but have no chance to win the tournament. I am am scratching my head to think of any other sport that would come up with that. If you play an event in any sport you want the chance to win if you good enough. With this set of tournament rules you simply can go into a tournament and have no chance of winning it. It not fair play.

Martin_Stahl
RobboThe1st wrote:
is it not time something be done about the Swiss tournaments. last one I enter 3 players won all their 5 games (me not included) yet someone wins a gold, silver and bronze. I understand it calculated on who you drawn against and how many games they win but is it not stupid that someone can win every game and still come second or third. There are a number of ways this can be avoided such as increasing the the number of rounds if there are a huge amount of entries or having a play off. For me the way these Swiss tournaments are decided is just so trivial.

Tournaments have tiebreaks.

https://support.chess.com/article/314-how-do-ties-in-tournaments-work

If someone signs up for a tournament that lasts 5 rounds, they might not want to stick around to plate another batch of games.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. The only thing at stake, in most cases, is a digital medal.

RobboThe1st

Then why bother with a tournament at all, may as well just play randoms. Digital medal or whatever if you enter a game there should be a chance to win even if it's paceman v other paceman players. Honestly I don't know of any other games you simply have no chance to win. It makes the tournament pointless.

Martin_Stahl
RobboThe1st wrote:

Then why bother with a tournament at all, may as well just play randoms. Digital medal or whatever if you enter a game there should be a chance to win even if it's paceman v other paceman players. Honestly I don't know of any other games you simply have no chance to win. It makes the tournament pointless.

Maybe Arenas would be a better idea? Swiss events are designed to be a set number of rounds so people know what they are signing up for when they start.

RobboThe1st

And if people not have time for six or seven round tournaments they can go and play a quicker format like bliss or bullet or simply chose to avoid. I don't play a 30/30 tournament if I don't have 4 odd hours up my sleeve. That's just common sense but for me if you going to bother with a tournament at all every entrant should have a chance to win.

RobboThe1st

Alternatively they could cap entries. First in 1st served but it just ridiculous holding a competition that some entrants can't win. Full Stop .....

pleewo

Tiebreakers are a thing 👍

Martin_Stahl
RobboThe1st wrote:

And if people not have time for six or seven round tournaments they can go and play a quicker format like bliss or bullet or simply chose to avoid. I don't play a 30/30 tournament if I don't have 4 odd hours up my sleeve. That's just common sense but for me if you going to bother with a tournament at all every entrant should have a chance to win.

They work like most OTB Swiss events. All well performing players have a chance to win, though usually they'll be the highest rated players, but things like medals are usually handled by tiebreaks. Some higher tier events may have other tiebreak criteria.

On the other hand, rating-based Arenas are designed so that anyone can win.

RobboThe1st

Before the Queens Gambit show the tournaments ran well. Now the game so popular (which is good) these Swiss tournaments simply don't cater for the amount of entrants. 5 rounds just doesn't work if you want to give all the entrants a chance to win the competition.