Two rooks Versus Queen?

I had this game recently, and my opponent had almost enough pawns too equal my advantage in pieces. 2 pawns to one bishop. Then he offered his two rooks for my queen. From a material perspective, two rooks are better, but I was wondering you opinion. In the game his pawns stay locked in, and my rooks and bishop dominate the queen, ending in a brilliant bishop maneuver winning the game. But which is better, queen or two rooks?

idk 2 rooks r more points tho

I know that, the thing is, a queen is more versatile, and can maneuver more easily, leading to more tricks and perpetual checks. Two rooks have more straight force though, if they are coordinated they can really dominate a queen.

thers an extra bishop tho. remember?

true, this isn't the best example. My opponent had 2 pawns for the bishop because he thought either we'd have an endgame where he'd have two connected passers, or he though his attack was good enough to win. but one can see, my rooks couldn't coordinate alone to defeat the queen, I needed the bishop to win that. Thus I believe a queen is stronger.

oh. ur wierf

what?

Obviously it all depends on the exact position. The "points" indicates that two Rooks are stronger (10 points vs 9) and this is probably true on a superficial level. The Rooks are two pieces and the Queen is just one; if the Rooks are well coordinated, they do often seem better. However, some technique and caution is often required: the Queen side feels easier to find moves, but the Rooks should probably win (from my experience). 

There is one BIG guideline that is important to note though and this guideline usually dictates which is actually better. This "BIG guideline" is the King safety. If the King from the Rooks side is fairly open, then the Queen is probably stronger as it can always harass the King with checks, perpetual checks especially, or even tactics based off of giving checks. If the Rooks side has a fairly protected King (say a lot of pawns on the board for instance), then the two Rooks can sometimes prove to be the stronger force.

I agree, it does depend on the position. My teacher had some words on this topic which above I have kind of said. It is two on one. If it comes down to a point of tension, the rooks will win as they will over power the queen and win said pawn or piece, thus further giving the two rooks side the advantage. Yet he also said that the rooks if not coordinated can get in a lot of trouble, such as in some positions being forked. If one rook is successfully removed from the position, as in made obsolete, not captured, the queen being the better piece will win. He concluded that coordinated rooks have sheer  strength that an alone queen cannot muster, while the queen's ability to use diagonals makes it trickier, and able to create mating nets or draws out of seemingly nothing. Thus he said rooks are better so long as you are careful with piece positioning. I usually disagree as I like tricks, but I respect his opinion, and usually he is correct. Still though, it cane be difficult to coordinate rooks, as shown in my game, I need another piece in order to over power a queen, so if I only had pawns like my opponent, I would say that that game was a draw, as I wouldn't have been able to coordinate my rooks effectively, and would've used them to support pawns, which would've eventually been locked in by other pawns.

I have been on both ends of the situation before, so my personal take is that there is no hard and fast rule on this. As others have pointed out, two well-coordinated rooks in general is better than a queen, while queens can move diagonally - something which even the two well-coordinated rooks cannot do.

Depending on the exact position involving pawns and so on, either side could be on the better end, or it could even be an even, drawn position.

Of course, with the extra bishop on board in the game above, Black has better chances of winning the game, and as it turns out, the White queen gets trapped amongst the pawn chains.

yeah, I am needlessly proud of that bishop maneuver, but I agree with what you say, I believe there is a hard fast rule though, king safety is most important, and if one player has a safe king and 2 coordinated rooks, they will win