Vacation abuse

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Avatar of Forgeron

I know but I might need a " legitimate and reasonable" vacation sometimes. I am playing in a no vacation at the moment and even here someone is delaying by taking the maximum time for every move and they are already technically eliminitated.

Avatar of Puanli_Heyecan

I agree! Smile

We need something like "Max Vacation Time that can be used"  option in the tournament set up page -- rather than having only two options, "Vacation Allowed" and "No Vacation".

Avatar of Forgeron

Very good idea!

Avatar of Mental_gc

vacation...........my pet hate, makes one contemplate not playing on this site as most of the guys I've played that do use vacation time, use it in a very unprofessional way..........3 day tournaments become 6 day tournaments..........I do think it is a ploy to get an opponent to resign out of frustration..........

I think vacation should be scrapped altogether

Avatar of pfren

Vacation is a standard part of correspondence chess. If you don't like it, then play bullet- no vacation there.

Avatar of ThrillerFan

It ain't just this site guys.  Even USCF email and snail mail correspondence chess have vacation time (30 days per calendar year).  Like pfren said, it's all part of correspondence, and when you are going to be away, you use it.

I know some people like to drag out a lost game, figuring if you gain points, they'll lose less.  It's nothing you can change.  However, others like myself use it when we actually need to, like if I'm at the US Open, for example.

Avatar of barryjh

I agree. Once the placings for the next round are determined, surely there must be a way of letting the next round start? Even if there are unfinished games outstanding which will not affect the outcomes of the round.

Avatar of Pat_Zerr

I like vacation time because I have used it to suspend games when I was on vacation, or else camping for a weekend away from any internet access.  But that's the only time I've used it.  I see no fun in prolonging lost games, but it would appear that a lot of people get off on it.

Avatar of Mental_gc

I understand that vacation time is part of correspondance chess, however in my experience a lot of people abuse it, that is what pisses me off......

Avatar of gkristiansen

I need vacation because im sick.Is there anybody that can tell me where i can find the button?

Avatar of hicks83

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings

 

at the bottom.

Avatar of 19mark60

I totally agree with stronger vacation limits. I am playing in the 27th chess.com tourny and I have 1 opponent who waited 2 days 23 hours then went on vacation. Another player has made a handful of moves and went on vacation. As of this post they are both still on vacation. I totally agree that this ruins it for all the other players and I think vacations should not be allowed at all or limited to 1 vacation stint of 1 week max duration per game. This is very aggrivating.

Avatar of Forgeron

I agree vacation time is necessary, I had to use some myself for illness. However it seems odd that in nearly every tournament someone decides to considerably lengthen it by taking a vacation or making each move so close to the time limit it significantly lengthens the game. Non of this is against the rules but is certainly against the spirit. The problem is in spite of all the comments admin seems to be taking no steps to combat this, so I don't know what can be done. Perhaps there should be a "please investigate" button?

Avatar of 19mark60

any ideas or examples on how or what you would do as a reward?

Avatar of Snookslayer

What the hell is everyone's hurry? You can say what he's doing is cheesy but if it's legal then you just have to deal with it. Who cares if you have wait a month to win? Are you dying and can't wait that long?

I exclusively play 14-day online chess because as a non-pay member my vacation days are limited and I'd hate to lose any game on time because something happened (or win on time for that matter). I once played a game that literally took over a year - dude took the whole 14 days to make each move. I thought it was funny. What the hell, I'm not going anywhere.

Avatar of bangalore2

Yes, but it gets annoying. Say, I'm going away (somewhere) in 6 months, and I will be away for a mont. Time to stop playing CC games. You have one game at 5 days a move, so 7 days = about 2 ply. Better hope you wipe him out in 24 moves....

Avatar of schachfan1

If we sign up for a game with 3 days/move time control, we must be ready to play with that time control, if it's 7 days/move - we must be ready to play with that time control (if we sign up for that game)

The funny thing though is, with vacation regulations on chess.com, that I cannot start my vacation in case at least in one of my current games is my turn to move. One and a half year ago, in winter, during some period I had about 180 current on-line games (180 games is really not too much, because in addition to that I had also about 200 current games on some other chess site, mostly with long time control though, 10 or more days/move). When I fell ill and had to go to the hospital, of course I had to take some 1 or 2 week vacation. The funny thing was that when I at last made all the moves in the games where it's my turn to move - during those 15-20 minutes at the very least a dozen of new moves of my opponents appeared. The only way out I had was to ask (really strange and funny, at the least) my opponents not to move for at least some short period of time. But that whole idea seems not so convenient ... Imagine a person who has 300 hundred current online games (if I have no other current on-line games on some other chess sites - 300 games on the Chess.com only is not too much, I saw some people who are playing even more than 500 games). It's very possible that of those 300 opponents, at least several dozens might be present on-line every moment - and a funny thing to ask them all for God's sake not to move "because I want to start finally my vacation" - strange, very strange system ...

Avatar of bangalore2

Your opponents can move, I think. Your clock just doesn't run, but it is still your turn.

Avatar of schachfan1

Of course after my opponent's move it's my turn to move. I did not try to take a vacation recently, but when I tried to do it a year and a half ago - the system did not allow me to start my vacation because in a number of games it was my turn to move - those moves appeared in the games in which I just made moves. And after I finally made moves in all my games (it took me about 15-20 minutes) - it turned out that there were still games where it was my turn, because my opponents had 15-20 minutes time to make new moves. It's really a strange thing to ask opponents for God's sake not to move "because I want to start my vacation" ...

Avatar of bangalore2

Maybe the bug was fixed, because I started a vacation recently, with my turn in several games.