Variation Premoves

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Chess.com should add the feature to make a "variation premove" like in daily games where you can make an additional move.

The idea is for example

(lets just say white has .2 seconds here and black has 18 minutes)

if black goes Kf8 white will need to go Qf7 (mate) and if Kh8 white will go Qe8(mate)
 
but white will need to basically bet on what black will play given the fact that he can only make 1 last move and he will need to premove it, so whatever white premoves it will be a guess and he/she will have a 50% chance of winning and a 50% chance of drawing but it will be extremely annoying if black just sits there and lets his/her time out and then play at last second
 
and this is even more annoying if white had slightly more time (for example .5 seconds) so he/she will have to hover over there with the mouse for 15 minutes so again if there was a way to make a premove by putting in a variation (Kf8 Qf7 mate and Kh8 Qe8 mate) white could just leave the room and black will have no reason to let his/her time out.
 
 

 

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not sure exactly how this will work but just an idea happy.png

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because atleast people will stop having any reason to just stall and let their time out

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interesting idea

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beetleby wrote:

interesting idea

yeah but probably not practical because atleast when you have only a few seconds left you really can't manage to make premoves like this

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Makes sense tho.... it’s a good idea

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This is already a thing in daily chess... It's called "Conditional Moves" were you can do your "Idea." If you dont know were it is, it's above the draw button.

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MagnetsCarleson wrote:

This is already a thing in daily chess... It's called "Conditional Moves" were you can do your "Idea." If you dont know were it is, it's above the draw button.

yeah Ik but it is extremely annoying when you need to hover your mouse over something for a long time cause your opponent is just stalling

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yoavjm_2004 wrote:
MagnetsCarleson wrote:

This is already a thing in daily chess... It's called "Conditional Moves" were you can do your "Idea." If you dont know were it is, it's above the draw button.

yeah Ik but it is extremely annoying when you need to hover your mouse over something for a long time cause your opponent is just stalling

I understand. Have you been in a situation like this or something?

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yoavjm_2004 wrote:
MagnetsCarleson wrote:

This is already a thing in daily chess... It's called "Conditional Moves" were you can do your "Idea." If you dont know were it is, it's above the draw button.

yeah Ik but it is extremely annoying when you need to hover your mouse over something for a long time cause your opponent is just stalling

I hope you realise you can report someone for Stalling / Quitting Games. Its against ToS.

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MagnetsCarleson wrote:
yoavjm_2004 wrote:
MagnetsCarleson wrote:

This is already a thing in daily chess... It's called "Conditional Moves" were you can do your "Idea." If you dont know were it is, it's above the draw button.

yeah Ik but it is extremely annoying when you need to hover your mouse over something for a long time cause your opponent is just stalling

I understand. Have you been in a situation like this or something?

sometimes I have had to wait some 10-seconds hovering my mouse over a square 

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but in every situation there is always some variations (even if they are likely not to happen) that you would want to premove against

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maybe especially good in blitz because time is important but when opp is having a good think you can throw in a few variation premoves!

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lol maybe but this point:

and this is even more annoying if white had slightly more time (for example .5 seconds) so he/she will have to hover over there with the mouse for 15 minutes so again if there was a way to make a premove by putting in a variation (Kf8 Qf7 mate and Kh8 Qe8 mate) white could just leave the room and black will have no reason to let his/her time out.

doesnt make any sense!! lol it should take White a max of 1 min to realise that if he has 0.5 secs he should just multi premove Qe5 followed by Qe8 which is mate in both cases!

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and i think technically in live chess its not possible to implement this feature

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vinniethepooh wrote:

lol maybe but this point:

and this is even more annoying if white had slightly more time (for example .5 seconds) so he/she will have to hover over there with the mouse for 15 minutes so again if there was a way to make a premove by putting in a variation (Kf8 Qf7 mate and Kh8 Qe8 mate) white could just leave the room and black will have no reason to let his/her time out.

doesnt make any sense!! lol it should take White a max of 1 min to realise that if he has 0.5 secs he should just multi premove Qe5 followed by Qe8 which is mate in both cases!

I guess good point but... mayeb in a blitz game if opp is having a good thought or taking a bathroom break it would be nice to even be ready for unlikely things 

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vinniethepooh wrote:

and i think technically in live chess its not possible to implement this feature

I guess maybe not happy.png  so should we just sign this topic as a FAILURE and try to find a better idea for improvement?!

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I like the idea and have even suggested it before, but I didn't get much traction. I'll bring it up again. 

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jdcannon wrote:

I like the idea and have even suggested it before, but I didn't get much traction. I'll bring it up again. 

Thank you!

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