Vladimir Kramnik's Place in Chess History

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JustinJ_FairfieldU

So with big Vlad's career coming to an end what do you think will be his legacy? Reuniting the world championship title? Dethroning Kasparov? His contributions to openning theory? Toliet gate and his rivialry with Topalov?  His consistent top quality play especially as white? Or something else?

Mayedasun

He took down the monster Kasparov in a match. That's how I will remember him. I must respect him for that. Although he did it in a conniving way and Kasparov showed he wasn't inferior in their rematches. 

billwall

Players will look up to him (OK, he is a tall chess player).

wingchun1

I would hardly say his career is coming to an end........he's only 39!!

ghostofmaroczy
vikram_singh_k blew the roof off:

No, nothing but an opening memorizing clown.

...in a sixty-four ring circus.

JustinJ_FairfieldU
wingchun1 wrote:

I would hardly say his career is coming to an end........he's only 39!!

He said he was going to retire when he turns 40.  I kinda agree with you guys though. The only thing he really did that was remarkable was dethroning Kasparov

Andre_Harding

Some of the comments demeaning Kramnik are very strange. I think a lot of it has to do with players not liking/understanding his playing style.

First of all, he became Classical World Champion and then was undisputed World Champion, reunifying the titles.

He was in the Top 3 for basically 15 years, and was ranked number 1.

He won lots of top events, including Dortmund 10 times!

Vladimir Kramnik definitely achieved a lot.

Rogue_King

I'll remember him as an insanely good player, one nearly impossible to defeat as white, and impossible to draw against as black. Multiple year world champion if I remember correctly. Took down Kasparov and spent a great deal of time in the 2800's. Kasparov, Kramnik, Anand are the top 3 of this era (90's-00's) imo with an honorable mention for Ivanchuk and Topalov.

Pulpofeira
JustinJ_FairfieldU escribió:
wingchun1 wrote:

I would hardly say his career is coming to an end........he's only 39!!

He said he was going to retire when he turns 40.  I kinda agree with you guys though. The only thing he really did that was remarkable was dethroning Kasparov

Just a trifle.

JustinJ_FairfieldU

wha he did was certainly impressive, but I don't think he will be remebered kindly by history.  He'll probably have a legacy similar to spassky. only instead being "the guy that fischer beat" he'll be the guy that beat kasparov

Robert_New_Alekhine

Beating G.K

Pulpofeira

Mamma mia!

Andre_Harding
chessmicky wrote:

The whole point of the internet is that weak-minded little trolls, who can barely figure out how the knight moves, get to mask their own inferiority by making fun of people with real accomplishments, like Kramnik. 

 

In the real world, Kramnik has been one of the very best players on the planet since he first startled the chess world with his performance on the Soviet Olympic team while still a teenager

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MSC157

Wienerschnitzel Ringelspiel, eat yourself or admit the facts! :)

Sqweaky

In my opinion, his contribution to the English opening.
Thanks to him, I play Bb4 as black
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Bb4

Pulpofeira

¡Muerteeeeeeeee!

JustinJ_FairfieldU

its interesting that people are so divided about him.  I agree he's been one of the best players of his time for sure.  I've always looked up to his work ethic.  I think he could be the hardest working player since Fischer.

TheGreatOogieBoogie
balente wrote:

He had the close win against Kasparov who's heart was not in it any more, then went on to be the least impressive WC ever.

How dare you insult such a great legend!  The very Kramnik who defeated Kasparov with his outside the box preparation (the Berlin Wall was considered somewhat dubious at the time) and outstanding technique, defeated Topalov in a reunification match, Topalov in turn dominated the very strong San Luis 2005 tournament, and consider this game he played against Carlsen, look at that game carefully and tell me again that Kramnik is the least impressive world champion. 

True he wasn't champion when he played it but considering Carlsen's incredible understanding and capabilities the draw was quite impressive since Kramnik demonstrated a fine comportment befitting a champion and didn't allow himself to get outplayed.

MSC157

I love this game! :)

MSC157

Just an interesting fact - I drew the position like this, too. It's not always possible to win g,h-pawns RvR endgames. :)