What are the main differences between 1.d4 and 1.e4?

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leiph18

Yes, it has to do with how the c and f pawn are different.

The c pawn can move (and usually should) after d4. The f pawns usually don't (and shouldn't) after e4.

So, even if you protect an e pawn with another pawn, an exchange will open at least one center file.

Salimi98
ponz111 wrote:

The Queens Gambit  1. d4   d5  2. c4 is sound and good.

The Kings Gambit   1. e4  e5  2. f4  is not so good.

1. e4 is sometimes considered not so good in Centaur Chess as Black can equalize with 1. e4  e5  2. Nf3  Nf6!  [Petroff Defense]

 

Please do not misinform people!If black can equalzie with petroff,

then black can beat d4 with dutch!!!(1.d4 f5)

If e4 was'nt good,then Ficher was not going to play it

and if d4 was not good,Alekhin was not going to play it:|

You as is said,You should play one of them till master level and stick to it.which one?It depend on your style

ponz111
Salimi98 wrote:
ponz111 wrote:

The Queens Gambit  1. d4   d5  2. c4 is sound and good.

The Kings Gambit   1. e4  e5  2. f4  is not so good.

1. e4 is sometimes considered not so good in Centaur Chess as Black can equalize with 1. e4  e5  2. Nf3  Nf6!  [Petroff Defense]

 

Please do not misinform people!If black can equalzie with petroff,

then black can beat d4 with dutch!!!(1.d4 f5)

If e4 was'nt good,then Ficher was not going to play it

and if d4 was not good,Alekhin was not going to play it:|

You as is said,You should play one of them till master level and stick to it.which one?It depend on your style

Your statements do not make sense.

IronedSandwich

Because d4 is protected it's better defensively. And it's gambit is better.

Because e4 allows fast queen attacks and faster short castling it's more aggresive.

Sacrificing the c/f pawn is an option but not the only one. And 1.. nf6 is bad against e4 but 1... nc6 is rubbish against d4. Instead of thinking about statistics try thinking about what you want to do next, though.

Salimi98
ponz111 wrote:
Salimi98 wrote:
ponz111 wrote:

The Queens Gambit  1. d4   d5  2. c4 is sound and good.

The Kings Gambit   1. e4  e5  2. f4  is not so good.

1. e4 is sometimes considered not so good in Centaur Chess as Black can equalize with 1. e4  e5  2. Nf3  Nf6!  [Petroff Defense]

 

Please do not misinform people!If black can equalzie with petroff,

then black can beat d4 with dutch!!!(1.d4 f5)

If e4 was'nt good,then Ficher was not going to play it

and if d4 was not good,Alekhin was not going to play it:|

You as is said,You should play one of them till master level and stick to it.which one?It depend on your style

Your statements do not make sense.

I meant both of them are good

heyRick

have you ever noticed how the opposite kings and queens line up?

heyRick

have you ever noticed how the opposite kings and queens line up?

RobinHood75
IronedSandwich wrote:

And 1.. nf6 is bad against e4 but 1... nc6 is rubbish against d4. Instead of thinking about statistics try thinking about what you want to do next, though.

Uh... no. Definitely no. On, 1.e4, the Alekhine Defense (1...Nf6) is perfectly sound and playable, and it's the kind of opening where Black can easily equalize if White doesn't know his theory. As for 1.d4 Nc6, it has an absolutely awful record on CT database.

IronedSandwich
GMRobinHood wrote:
IronedSandwich wrote:

And 1.. nf6 is bad against e4 but 1... nc6 is rubbish against d4. Instead of thinking about statistics try thinking about what you want to do next, though.

Uh... no. Definitely no. On, 1.e4, the Alekhine Defense (1...Nf6) is perfectly sound and playable, and it's the kind of opening where Black can easily equalize if White doesn't know his theory. As for 1.d4 Nc6, it has an absolutely awful record on CT database.

by rubbish I meant awful about d4 nc6. As for e4 nf3 I can understand that it isn't terrible but it seems to me (from a tactical standpoint, not a statistical one) that Black is more passive than White and blundering is easier if you're Black. Maybe this is just my limited experience, though.

clarapca

pfren WROTE:

GMRobinHood wrote:
IronedSandwich wrote:

And 1.. nf6 is bad against e4 but 1... nc6 is rubbish against d4. Instead of thinking about statistics try thinking about what you want to do next, though.

Uh... no. Definitely no. On, 1.e4, the Alekhine Defense (1...Nf6) is perfectly sound and playable, and it's the kind of opening where Black can easily equalize if White doesn't know his theory. As for 1.d4 Nc6, it has an absolutely awful record on CT database.

1.d4 Nc6 is no less sound than 1.e4 Nf6.

is the idea of Nc6 to fight for the center with d6 and e5? if so, it looks fine. Im playing such ideas but with the Knight going to d7. Maybe I should take a look at it.

ponz111

1. d4 is better than e4.

1. d4  e5  White wins

1. e4  d5   probably a draw with best play.

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IronedSandwich
ponz111 wrote:

1. d4 is better than e4.

1. d4  e5  White wins

1. e4  d5   probably a draw with best play.

 

d4 gives black less blunder opportunity. And those aren't the only possible retaliation: e4 c5 > d4 f5. And you're assuming he's talking about white.

varelse1

BlcScorpion wrote:

What are the main differences between 1.d4 and 1.e4?

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There is no difference. Both moves are rubbish. Each one leaves weaknesses in whites camp, which black can later exploit. Same goes for any other choice white makes on move one. White should simply resign, rather than draw out this pointless endeavor.

X_PLAYER_J_X

1.e4  actives control over more squares than 1.d4 so mathmatically 1.e4 will always be better becuase it controls more squares.

However, 1.d4  is the second most active chess move on move 1. In terms of controlling squares.

beretm9

e4 is old

d4 is more recent

Daybreak57
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adumbrate
Daybreak57 wrote:
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black can't do that unless he want to drop a pawn for no reason except the bishop pair

ponz111

1. e4 leads to a draw if Black plays the Petroff Defense.

There is no similar defense to 1. d4

1. d4 is supported by the queen.  1. e4 is not.

1. d4  d5  2. c4 is a good opening  1. e4  e5 2. f4 is a dubious opening

 

1. d4   c5   2. d4 is the best continuation   1. e4  f5  2. e5? is a mistake.

1. d4  e5? loses    1. e4  d5 is playable.

The queen is head of the family.  The king just cowers and tries not to  be check mated.

X_PLAYER_J_X

1.e4 allows 16 squares to be controlled

1.d4 allows 14 squares to be controlled

 

1.e4 > 1.d4

 

ponz111