What if Stalemate Meant You Lost???

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That would be great!

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Players could also play more accurately and thus stalemate wouldn't be a concern. I haven't accidentally stalemated someone in close to 10 years.

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that's the stupidest idea I've heard on a bit. >:-(

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If you stalemate, you sucked. That means you deserve to lose.

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ziplinekitkat wrote:

that's the stupidest idea I've heard on a bit. >:-(

Well you can't relate; you must be in a WINNING position in order to stalemate

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lots of nice endgames would not be played or would not be possible if steelmate means losing game

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All king and pawn versus lone king endings would be a win for the side having the pawn as long as Black does not capture the pawn.

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Some other examples in which the side having material 'wins' because of stalemate.

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eric0022 wrote:

 

Some other examples in which the side having material 'wins' because of stalemate.

Those positions would be impossible due to insufficient material, which is an automatic draw.

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How about stalemate is a loss when you have a queen on the board??

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AyushMChessMator wrote:
eric0022 wrote:

 

Some other examples in which the side having material 'wins' because of stalemate.

Those positions would be impossible due to insufficient material, which is an automatic draw.

 

Hard to say.

 

 

 

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AyushMChessMator wrote:

How about stalemate is a loss when you have a queen on the board??

 

Novice players would be crying after promoting many queens on board and accidentally stalemating opponent.

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eric0022 wrote:
AyushMChessMator wrote:

How about stalemate is a loss when you have a queen on the board??

 

Novice players would be crying after promoting many queens on board and accidentally stalemating opponent.

That would be great! They could actually learn how to play with a lone queen and king vs king!

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protonlaser91 wrote:

But that would not let amazing swindles happen, such as when an opponent sacrifices all their material in a losing position to get stalemate. You would rid the chess world of those treasures.

That means when you sacrifice all your pieces for stalemate; you'd win!

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, not ; lol

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but then  all the endgames with material down, like shown above, king+pawn vs king, would be lost immediatelly for side with sole king, no use to play, either mate or steelmate, it would be lost.

now consider that steelmate as draw is  enrichment of endings, it improves chess to more interesting and exciting level, or they ll became moore poor and dry if steelmate is same as checkmate.

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AyushMChessMator wrote:
eric0022 wrote:

 

Some other examples in which the side having material 'wins' because of stalemate.

Those positions would be impossible due to insufficient material, which is an automatic draw.

This question came up once, why should insufficient material be a concern if the player has no legal moves. By definition, checkmate would not have to be possible if stalemate was a win. A contradiction, and that is why stalemate is a draw.

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AyushMChessMator wrote:

What if Stalemate Meant You Lost???

Who do you mean? Which player?

"You" as in my opponent is given the loss?

Then sure, I'd like that tongue.png

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AyushMChessMator wrote:
eric0022 wrote:

 

Some other examples in which the side having material 'wins' because of stalemate.

Those positions would be impossible due to insufficient material, which is an automatic draw.

Automatic draws should be automatic losses.

Also if I offer a draw and my opponent accepts, then they lose.