What is the best time format for the learners ?

There are a lot of time formats for playing chess but it is important to know which format is good for the learners. This would help them in improving their chess playing skill.

 

Perhaps this is legitimate. This much time period is good for deep thinking in play. 

If you can play a game in 10 minutes you know your opening well. If not you need a 15 minute time limit or longer. 30 minutes is excessive in some cases. It also depends how you classify a beginner.

If you are truly a beginner then a clock is not even necessary.

15|10 seems good imo. Not too short where they don't have time to think, and not too long it bores them out and they start making blunders because they can't concentrate.

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When dealing with beginners the most important thing is to make it fun. If they are bored by chess they will just quit altogether because there's better things to do than to sit for 5 hours on a 90|30 game. 

Think of it like a little kid that just learned how to swim. You don't put him immediately in the deepest section of the pool beacuse he's going to be there eventually. You start shallow and once he feels comfortable he'll want to go deeper. It's about gradually involving him/her in chess.

You're just scaring away people by wanting to force them to play a super long time control in which they will just quit chess after that and probably won't even waste 10 minutes of their clock. 

If you don't like the swimming analogy I've got another one. In The Hobbit Gandalf knows Beorn hates dwarfs so he will likely won't help them given 12 of the 14 characters in the quest are dwarfs, so Gandalf introduces the dwarfs in pairs of 2.

It's all about gradualism.

 

My first games were untimed with friends. Weeks later we played our first 30 minute games in a tournament.

How did that feel/go?

I didn't do well in my first tournament but the time control was fine. G/30 isn't very long and new players don't use up their time anyway.

I enjoy 5|5 the most. Not too short, not too long.

Soz man, but I also feel that shorter time controls help keep me focused and so I also learn better. I tried 15 mins, 30 mins but they're so long and tiresome. I can't stare at a chessboard for one hour, I often end up browsing other websites while my opponent takes 5 mins to contemplate a move.

Mind ya, I'm pretty much a beginner too. Personally I don't learn much from long time controls because I don't know how to calculate so deep into a position. I'm a beginner, I'm still learning to recognize obvious tactics and weaknesses. I think most beginners would benefit more from short matches where they can train their pattern recognisation, instead of long drawn-out games where beginners like me just tire out.

An hour per side for real life games.

On this website, maybe 15 | 10.

Just avoid blitz.

I agree with @Indirect. Play a slow time control with an initial time like 15 minutes, with increments, like 10 seconds per move. Increments are very important.

"One of the usual mistakes beginners do is they play for too long with players of similar rating."

Hmm I can't find the quote button on mobile for some reason (iPhone 4 ha ha)

So beginners shouldn't play long time controls in their normal rated mode? I agree with you on this point though, I imagine there's no point playing for an hour against someone who just blundered away his queen but doesn't resign and forces you to waste time playing.

I don't mind longer time controls against good opponents (mostly cos I lose quickly so the game doesn't really last an hour .. ha) because it's much more challenging and I find the long time more bearable. I've played some 1700s and 1800s in Lichess tournaments, really fun but I usually end up in time trouble.

But I really learnt a bit from matches against better rated opponents. They exploit mistakes I made which worked fine against people my level, good thing else I'd think they were good moves forever. I wish chess.com has a mode where lower rated players can play unrated games against higher rated players ... But then again, prolly not many higher rated peeps out there willing to waste time with noobs like me.

Play daily chess, 1 until 3 days, play about 10 games

You do realize most beginners' games don't end with whoever's plan was successfully excuted wins? Most of their games are won because of an obvious blunder, usually leaving a piece en prise. 15|10 is more than enough time to make sure you don't leave hanging pieces and avoid simple 1 move tactics.

Begginers have trouble keeping their pieces protected and you want them to develop a plan, which I would argue that they don't know much, if any, strategy. They're barely learning pins and forks and still have trouble protecting their own pieces, they don't know about attacking a weak color complex, or which pawn to mush in a minority attack. 

However, I do agree with you that they should play people stronger than them, that's true for every level. 

I agree this is right in terms of putting tactics and strategies to work.

But I coached a very successful high school team and found that ANY learning plan that included tactics and seeing how the pieces interacted with each other was valuable.  That includes Bughouse, I enjoyed hearing a player is yelling to his partner, "I need a Knight!"

That told me he was recognizing/learning how to use a Knight to wreak havoc.

Learning patterns and quickly recognizing them is also valuable and even Blitz games help with that, though I required my players to put at least 10 minutes on the clock in club meeting games.  I taught all my new players to recognize potential traps and discovered attacks.  For most players, the game is lost because you didn't overprotect as well as defend pieces - the latter being most important for newbies.  I required all my tournament players to reading Nimzowitsch's chapter on Overprotection from My System.

I think that depends on the personality, for me the best is 30 mins because i know i have enought time not to make any mistakes by not thinking everything over. Tho 15|10 works as well. When i just started playing (wasnt like i havent played before, just a long time ago) daily, i found 1 and 3 min games way too difficult, but now as all the combinations and strategies come back to mind, it gets gradually easier.
So yes, 10 to 15 minutes will get you used to it faster, but i think it would be neccessary to play 30 from time to time and 1 or 3 min games just to check how much better have you gotten

"..., you have to make a decision: have tons of fun playing blitz (without learning much), or be serious and play with longer time controls so you can actually think.
One isn’t better than another. Having fun playing bullet is great stuff, while 3-0 and 5-0 are also ways to get your pulse pounding and blood pressure leaping off the charts. But will you become a good player? Most likely not.
Of course, you can do both (long and fast games), ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (June 9, 2016)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/longer-time-controls-are-more-instructive