What is the difference between gambit and poison pawn

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JackRoach

I mean, I've heard that it's bad.

Cause it neglects development and opens their rook?

TheSmited
JackRoach wrote:

I mean, I've heard that it's bad.

Cause it neglects development and opens their rook?

It can cause your piece(usually queen) to be trapped, and it can give your opponent an initiative.

Rat1960

@JackRoach, this sort of thing ...

JackRoach

Yes, but black didn't play the opening well and didn't develop. I get what you mean like that were you can either trap the queen or win material somehow.

But it's not always like that. 

 

blueemu

In game 11 of the 1972 World Chess Championship match, Spassky won Fischer's Queen right in the opening in a Sicilian Najdorf Poisoned Pawn variation.

Boris V Spassky vs Robert James Fischer (1972) Crime and Punishment (chessgames.com)

TheSmited

The Blackburn-Shilling Gambit has a poisoned e pawn.

JackRoach

Ok. I missed mate in 1. 

But the point is, that sometimes the pawn is just a free pawn.

Moonwarrior_1
blueemu wrote:

Typically, the best way to refute a gambit is to accept it. Accepting a poisoned pawn has a poor reputation.

True

TheSmited

Openings like the King’s gambit are gambits because you will win the pawn back in a couple of moves. If you opponent takes a poisoned pawn, then you usually win something bigger, like the queen.

JackRoach

Usually you don't try hard to win the pawn back in the KG, right?

Don't you just attack?

TheSmited

It depends on what they do. If they try to defend the pawn with their life, then I attack. If they do actual orthodox moves, then I take it with the bishop.

fruitmonster97
Here is a game with a few blunders and poisoned pawns:

 

Jenium

Gambit refers to a sacrifice in the opening, usually a pawn, but sometimes even a piece.

A poisened pawn specifically refers to a pawn sacrifice, usually in the opening. But I guess it could also refer to the middle game. Also the term "poisoned" implies the assessment that it might be too dangerous to accept the sacrifice, while the term gambit is neutral.