What it's really like being a female chess player.

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Leela_03

Oh Lord, another troll forum, just what we need!  And if this is a real woman.... I am one, too.

I have found this site to be very nice to me, so ...you're just blowing smoke up your arse! lol

Besides, some women like the attention, lewd as it may be, as you are still here on the site. lol ha ha ha

AntonioVivaldiJr
stuzzicadenti wrote:

OP you make some pretty valid points, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. It's normal and natural for any human to enjoy being complimented, but I can also understand that women sometimes feel like they're being harrassed when plenty of men are initiating conversation with them. Even if the men don't have bad intentions it can be tiring to deal with unwanted attention. Remember that for a guy he may or may not be trying to flirt but he genuinely is interested in knowing about your personality and hobbies, and how your mind works. Not every man is a predator only looking for sex or things of a perverse nature. When I make friendships with women I primarily look for the kind of person she is and if she has a beautiful mind, heart, and soul. My advice is to you: just do your own thing, and follow your heart. I respect women and have never behaved badly towards any female on this website. And I reflect that persona in my real life.

 

I agree with you completely and know exactly what you mean. I always try very hard to understand why a woman might be standoffish and give them the benefit of the doubt (that they've been treated rudely). But it is incredible how aggressively *mean* some women are (and their "male feminist" enablers who defend them). They would insist that just smiling or saying hello to a female is akin to rape. It's actually quite sickening. I don't know which is more reprehensible, the guy who thinks of women only as sex objects or the "male feminist/white knight" chump who thinks that pandering to women is the only way to go about things.

trysts
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote: 

I agree with you completely and know exactly what you mean. I always try very hard to understand why a woman might be standoffish and give them the benefit of the doubt (that they've been treated rudely). But it is incredible how aggressively *mean* some women are (and their "male feminist" enablers who defend them). They would insist that just smiling or saying hello to a female is akin to rape. It's actually quite sickening. I don't know which is more reprehensible, the guy who thinks of women only as sex objects or the "male feminist/white knight" chump who thinks that pandering to women is the only way to go about things.

Guess what, no woman owes you an explanation for not talking to you. Get it? And do you know what's akin to rape? Rape is, so you can quit with your absurd exaggerations.

bunicula

even mice don't get respect on this site. 

thegreat_patzer
Neverfearthedark wrote:

 In many senses, chess sexism is institutional....I understand that the internet is a place where rampant sexism is often tolerated. However, I don't think it should be. 

I wanted to speak to these two points.  

an "institutional sexism" is one in which management takes no action in the face of obvious abuse.   this is clearly not correct / fair to chess.com.

Chess.com is NOT the "internet" and does not provide a free expression for anybodies insults, catcalls and other demeaning remarks.  it does, though, provide alot of places for a person to write and it seems to me to be a Huge job to police the forums, the blogs, live games, article comments and etc.

I think you are but a pm away from getting anything truly offensive deleted and in some cases; those writing will be warned or more.

As a game, yes for a long time it has been dominated by men- and women have been thought to be unequal competitors.  but don't be so quick to miss the fact that a great deal of guys have Alot of respect for women chessplayers.  I feel like I am part of the "silent" majority that does respect women, is appropriate with what I say, and tries to polite , courteous attitude both on the forums, by pm, and in my games.

I am glad you made your lament, and hope some peoples pledge of good conduct to be reassuring.  irl I would imagine any arbiter would be quick to reprimand a tournament participant who was being hostile.   irl or here, though you simply must block and ignore the occasional bad apple.  sometimes the right word to the right guy, can make sure that bad apple behaves better or isn't allowed back...

I have faith in chess.com management.  I have faith in its ability to catch cheaters, moderate posts, and ensure that bullying and stalking is stopped and forbidden.  I know chess.com struggles though to do all this and more.

the whole womens chess title is an endless argument- and rehashing it over and over again does nothing.      

AntonioVivaldiJr
trysts wrote:
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote: 

I agree with you completely and know exactly what you mean. I always try very hard to understand why a woman might be standoffish and give them the benefit of the doubt (that they've been treated rudely). But it is incredible how aggressively *mean* some women are (and their "male feminist" enablers who defend them). They would insist that just smiling or saying hello to a female is akin to rape. It's actually quite sickening. I don't know which is more reprehensible, the guy who thinks of women only as sex objects or the "male feminist/white knight" chump who thinks that pandering to women is the only way to go about things.

Guess what, no woman owes you an explanation for not talking to you. Get it? And do you know what's akin to rape? Rape is, so you can quit with your absurd exaggerations.

Oh, you're one of those "male feminist/white knight" types. Learn reading comprehension. I never said a woman owes me anything for not wanting to talk to me. And there are plenty of panderers like you who equate a simple think like saying hello on the street to harassment. I don't have anything else to say to you so if you respond to me, you can eat shit and die. 

 

ETA: Oh, I see you're a woman. I think. I tried to read your lengthy profile but got bored after the first seven hundred thousand words. 

 

trysts

No, I'm one of those females you think an investigation into being "standoffish" will reveal some psychological problem I've had with people being rude to me. Guess what? If you're encountering women who are standoffish, then don't push it. We're people, we don't owe you an explanation. Also, you're an asshole. You should expect "standoffish" until you learn not to be an asshole.

Elubas
trysts wrote:
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote: 

I agree with you completely and know exactly what you mean. I always try very hard to understand why a woman might be standoffish and give them the benefit of the doubt (that they've been treated rudely). But it is incredible how aggressively *mean* some women are (and their "male feminist" enablers who defend them). They would insist that just smiling or saying hello to a female is akin to rape. It's actually quite sickening. I don't know which is more reprehensible, the guy who thinks of women only as sex objects or the "male feminist/white knight" chump who thinks that pandering to women is the only way to go about things.

Guess what, no woman owes you an explanation for not talking to you. Get it?

That's fair, as long as it's also the case that a man doesn't owe it to a woman to enjoy it when she is mean. She can be mean, but he doesn't have to enjoy it if it's not for him. Because I get that some people like an aggressive type of person -- aggression can get things done. But other people don't, and that's a valid opinion as well.

AntonioVivaldiJr
trysts wrote:

No, I'm one of those females you think an investigation into being "standoffish" will reveal some psychological problem I've had with people being rude to me. Guess what? If you're encountering women who are standoffish, then don't push it. We're people, we don't owe you an explanation. Also, you're an asshole. You should expect "standoffish" until you learn not to be an asshole.

Why are you so hostile? Did I ever say I push anything. If someone walks away from me, I leave them alone. I don't demand an explanation. But you assume that I do, because? Because I'm a man and all men in your view are aggressive, right? 

Listen, you silly feminist, go burn a bra or eat tofu or whatever it is that you do. I used to have respect for feminism or intended to give it a chance until (like now) any time I say anything whatsoever in this regard I get reamed by a monster such as yourself with an afro sticking out of each arm.

 

Women are beautiful things. I love women. I love looking at their booties when they walk past me. I love staring at their cleavage and imagining thrusting myself right into them and hearing them moan for more. I love it when they (the nice ones, not the filthy, hateful feminazis like you) smile at me and treat me nice.

 

So, go write another fifteen chapters on your profile page. I'm dying to know what you're up to.

trysts

Yes elubas, you can look at it the fifty-thousand ways you look at everything.

Elubas
trysts wrote:

Yes elubas, you can look at it the fifty-thousand ways you look at everything.

Better fifty-thousand than one. Although for the record I was only suggesting two, but oh well, let's ignore that.

JDA1958

"Women are beautiful things", interesting way of talking about people?

trysts
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote:
trysts wrote:

No, I'm one of those females you think an investigation into being "standoffish" will reveal some psychological problem I've had with people being rude to me. Guess what? If you're encountering women who are standoffish, then don't push it. We're people, we don't owe you an explanation. Also, you're an asshole. You should expect "standoffish" until you learn not to be an asshole.

Why are you so hostile? Did I ever say I push anything. If someone walks away from me, I leave them alone. I don't demand an explanation. But you assume that I do, because? Because I'm a man and all men in your view are aggressive, right? 

Listen, you silly feminist, go burn a bra or eat tofu or whatever it is that you do. I used to have respect for feminism or intended to give it a chance until (like now) any time I say anything whatsoever in this regard I get reamed by a monster such as yourself with an afro sticking out of each arm.

 

Women are beautiful things. I love women. I love looking at their booties when they walk past me. I love staring at their cleavage and imagining thrusting myself right into them and hearing them moan for more. I love it when they (the nice ones, not the filthy, hateful feminazis like you) smile at me and treat me nice.

 

So, go write another fifteen chapters on your profile page. I'm dying to know what you're up to.

 You know, I could tell you were one of those arrogant creeps the moment I read that you give us the benefit of your doubt, followed by rape analogies like you're doing us a favour that you haven't gone that far. Weirdo.

Elubas
izhchtinizhyschyists wrote:

He and stuzzi should get married.

Then all of the accusations would go away, because we all know gay people can't be sexist.

u0110001101101000
trysts wrote:

Yes elubas, you can look at it the fifty-thousand ways you look at everything.

I love you Elubas, but this made me lol
Laughing

odisea777

Most men could not care less about the gender of their opponent. Women place much more weight on it than men do.

Yeah, there are some cretins (aka cringing vermin) out there, male troglodytes who crave internet anonymity from the comfort and secrecy of their mama's basement. This is the real world; what, seriously, do you expect?? It's wrong that there are rapists, murderers, abusers. 

It's the real world. 

Elubas
0110001101101000 wrote:
trysts wrote:

Yes elubas, you can look at it the fifty-thousand ways you look at everything.

I love you Elubas, but this made me lol

I think some people should actually try looking at something in fifty thousand ways. They might learn something from the experience. Could be like one of those weird exercises teachers make you do in middle school.

(Then again it's kind of the adults that need it, hehe.)

u0110001101101000

Unfortunately I think some men are just very... passionate. It's not wrong to be passionate, but people who don't share that passion will not be able to understand or relate to you very well.

Anyway, on topic to the OP, this is troll topic and women are people.

AntonioVivaldiJr
izhchtinizhyschyists wrote:
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote:
Women are beautiful things. I love women. I love looking at their booties when they walk past me. I love staring at their cleavage and imagining thrusting myself right into them and hearing them moan for more.

 

You're funny.

 

By the way, trysts, I find rudeness objectionable. If someone just walks away from me, I can either hate them or "give them the benefit of the doubt" that they are having a bad day or whatever. I was in line at the store and asked an old man what some salad preparation was. He just walked away from me. Now, yeah, you're going to say that I'm a creep and a weirdo because I was unnecessarily rude to you earlier (and I shouldn't have been) and that's why he walked away as if talking to a stranger was offensive to him. 99 percent of the time, people engage with me. I'm just being friendly. This guy was rude. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and didn't give a rat's ass one way or the other either.

The passage I wrote above was an intentional spit in your face as well as all feminazis and (worse, male feminists) everywhere. You're the reason that a great man like MIke Tyson is a convicted rapist (and who knows how many millions more) just for having sex with a woman. Yeah, my exaggeration was justified. Now, piss off. I'm not even going to participate in this idiotic conversation anymore.

 

Elubas
izhchtinizhyschyists wrote:
AntonioVivaldiJr wrote:
Women are beautiful things. I love women. I love looking at their booties when they walk past me.

Ya see, the key is to dislike the experience of seeing a woman's booty. Then, you won't love it anymore, and that's what women like to hear.

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