what to do when your opponent refuses drawing when its pawn + king vs. king
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Yes i agree except for the fact that this isnt OTB game and we wernt looking at his game in person as an OTB game. So for me i assumed he had finnished and was pointing it out. But i will make more certian in future thank you for letting me know....
Jun 28, 2008
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#22
How does one find out if the game is finished? I thought we were sort of on the honor system here.... Sorry for any trouble I may have caused but I think it's a little unreasonable to expect us to research the games shown in the forum. If he has time to ask about a game in the forum he could easily ask in infinately many other people on the net and in life. For this reason I don't think that there is any reason for us to know where he might be playing this game and whether or not we should comment on it. We're all just trying to play chess, learn, and have fun. I appreciate the heads up, but the accusation that we're breaking the rules might be unnecessary.
Is he playing a correspondence tournament or something?
This is an easy win.
White has "the opposition" -- it's a draw. If white bungles and loses the opposition Black wins. If you aren't familiar with the term, "the opposition," you should check out any reputable endgame manual. It will educate you on this important endgame concept.
Jun 28, 2008
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#24
All that fuss for nothing about... It is a simple draw!
Just use a right kind of opposition square, or it is a win, instead of the stalemate, or repetions...
tonydal wrote: JG27Pyth wrote: Tell your opponent... "I understand you have a right to continue to play out this obviously drawn game. Please understand that I have a right to refuse all further games with you because of this unnecessary and discourteous time-wasting behaviour. Thanks."
This would be my response too. However, seeing the argument raging in this post over the position, it's possible that it isn't so much lack of courtesy as lack of knowledge that impels Black to continue to play this out.
Yes, I'd arrived at the same possibility independently.
This is a drawn game. The only other way out is stalemate.
It must be tiresome waiting for your opponent to agree, but that's all you really can do.
There is no draw, black can win.
Fritz analyses this position to be a complete draw with perfect play from both sides. So stop arguing!
Aristokatt wrote: There is no draw, black can win.
Show us please, oh guru of chess wisdom, how white cannot avoid losing after others have shown that with correct play the game is a draw. The only way black can win is if white is stupid enough to give up control of g1. You can't depend on a blunder and say that a win is forced. A win is only forced if the best possible moves for the opponent all lead to a loss, or in other words, the opponent has to be in zugzwang, a condition in which EVERY move leads to checkmate, loss of material or a positional/tactical disadvantage.
In a K&P vs K endgame, the king has to LEAD the pawn to the queening square. It CANNOT follow it there.
well it is a draw
Isn't commenting on a game in progress considered "cheating" ? Shame on Y'ALL ! 
1) there are situations when the side with pawn can win, but they are well-known and categorized, any player with Elo 2000 must know them, and decide in seconds wether or not a given position of such material is a draw. The above position is indeed a draw, no matter who moves first.
2) if two players with more than 2000 elo continue in a drawish position, then it's bad manners . If the stronger side has elo less than 2000, and the position is drawish, its better not to tell anything to your opponent during the game, but sure you should tell him after something...
