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PkPum

So I don't play much rapid (If I do, 10 min games) and I've played over 200 games in rapid. I decided to play today and the first game I resigned and my rating went up +153? I had a losing streak of a few games, the next game I lost and went down -47, then another and went down -37, -34, until I won and went up +30, then 20-something and then in the teens and single digits.  Most of the games were against stronger opponents (50-80 points higher than me) and those first ones where I lost a ton of points they were all stronger. Usually the ratings don't go down as much if you lose against someone much stronger.

 What's going on? Is this normal? Is it somehow recalibrating because I haven't played rapid in a long time?

 It feels pretty bad that those first games against stronger opponents cost me so much, and then the later games weren't worth as much. My record over the day was 16-13, but my rating went down from 1209 to 1163.

 

llama47
PkPum wrote:

 Is this normal? Is it somehow recalibrating because I haven't played rapid in a long time?

Yes and yes.

New accounts and accounts that haven't played in a long time are considered to have unreliable ratings... but that's not entirely accurate... it's not as if there are only two types: accurate ratings and inaccurate, it's a continuum. The ratings of players who play every day are considered more accurate than the ratings of those who play every other day... if only by a little.

The more you played, the more accurate the system considered your rating, which is why your gains and losses became smaller and smaller. This is normal.

Mathematically it's quite accurate and efficient at getting people to the correct rating... it wasn't made by chess.com, it was made by an actual mathematician, so you know it's good tongue.png

If you had a bad day today, and if your rating would normally be over 1200, then that sucks, but if that's true then you'll quickly be over 1200 in the future. Just try to play when you're rested and willing to focus. That way your results will reflect your skill.

PkPum

Okay, thanks for confirming that. It just felt like something screwy was going on, because the first game I resigned and GAINED 153? I didn't even pay attention to what my rating was, so I don't know if it actually did it or if it was some kind of buggy contradiction.

llama47

Resigning will always lose points. So there's some misunderstanding there for sure.

Moonwarrior_1
llama47 wrote:
PkPum wrote:

 Is this normal? Is it somehow recalibrating because I haven't played rapid in a long time?

Yes and yes.

New accounts and accounts that haven't played in a long time are considered to have unreliable ratings... but that's not entirely accurate... it's not as if there are only two types: accurate ratings and inaccurate, it's a continuum. The ratings of players who play every day are considered more accurate than the ratings of those who play every other day... if only by a little.

The more you played, the more accurate the system considered your rating, which is why your gains and losses became smaller and smaller. This is normal.

Mathematically it's quite accurate and efficient at getting people to the correct rating... it wasn't made by chess.com, it was made by an actual mathematician, so you know it's good

If you had a bad day today, and if your rating would normally be over 1200, then that sucks, but if that's true then you'll quickly be over 1200 in the future. Just try to play when you're rested and willing to focus. That way your results will reflect your skill.

+1

blueemu
PkPum wrote:

... the first game I resigned and GAINED 153?

The definitions of Blitz and Rapid time controls were changed a couple of months ago. The odd +153 change in rating after your first rapid game in a long while was probably caused by chess.com going back through your game history and re-sorting the old games into the new "Blitz" and "Rapid" categories, then recalculating the ratings.

PkPum
blueemu wrote:
PkPum wrote:

... the first game I resigned and GAINED 153?

The definitions of Blitz and Rapid time controls were changed a couple of months ago. The odd +153 change in rating after your first rapid game in a long while was probably caused by chess.com going back through your game history and re-sorting the old games into the new "Blitz" and "Rapid" categories, then recalculating the ratings.

Okay, I didn't realize there were rejigging things, so that makes sense. On a brighter note, I actually took the time think things through a bit better and won 6 of 7 games, got my rapid back up over 1200. happy.png

Martin_Stahl
blueemu wrote:
PkPum wrote:

... the first game I resigned and GAINED 153?

The definitions of Blitz and Rapid time controls were changed a couple of months ago. The odd +153 change in rating after your first rapid game in a long while was probably caused by chess.com going back through your game history and re-sorting the old games into the new "Blitz" and "Rapid" categories, then recalculating the ratings.

 

The historical games weren't rerated or recategorized. It was likey just due to that point boost from September of last year.

 

https://www.chess.com/news/view/10-minute-chess-now-rapid-rated-bullet-ratings-increased

PkPum

I just now read a message from November that mentioned some point changes (although increasing bullet ratings by about 150) but it looks like that's all that happened in that first 10 minute game I played. Thanks everyone!