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gavagai_hh
Aug 2, 2022
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#61
Optimissed wrote:
gavagai_hh wrote:

„Which means any mental activity, like thinking about how to grow rhubarb is a sport.“

No. It is no exercise. Likewise not any walk of two meters is a sport.

„it didn't make sense to label every single human activity (mental or physical) a sport.“

I agree. I wanted to have short premises. You almost never include all conditions. So, if you will, premise (1) is

„(1a) Sport is exercise (fitness) of a part of the body in a competitive manner.“

When you assure „Water boils at 100 degree Celsius“ you also don't mention all other necessary requirements.

 


You don't get to cherrypick. You do have to be true to the general principles. Thinking about how to grow rhubarb is a sport because it's mental exercise and all mental exercise is sport.

That's your opinion. I disagree.

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SamPrime101
Aug 2, 2022
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#62

lfPatriotGames - So you're basically saying sport is physical?  How much physical? 100, 70, 60, or even just 1% physical?

All physical sports are mental to a degree obviously.  But what about precision sports that actually have little physical involvement?  Imagine marksmanship (i.e., shooting a target at 1200 yards).  Sure, you have to hold the gun and pull the trigger, but the true skill is the incredible velocity calculations and understanding the effects of the environment on your projectile.

But because elite marksmen spend massive amounts on the gun in their "game of choice," plus regulating their breath and shot - marksmanship is a sport?  Because honestly, it's 99% mind and 1% physical.  Are darts a sport?  Professional marbles?  Washers?  Quilting competitions?

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Jalex13
Aug 2, 2022
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#63
According to the dictionaries it includes physical exertion. So exertion is left to be subjective, and unquantified. It’s up to the reader to discern what exertion refers to and make a reasonable conclusion. Some people prefer to twist, turn, make excuses and take out of context the meaning of that.
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SamPrime101
Aug 2, 2022
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#64
Jalex13 wrote:
According to the dictionaries it includes physical exertion. So exertion is left to be subjective, and unquantified. It’s up to the reader to discern what exertion refers to and make a reasonable conclusion. Some people prefer to twist, turn, make excuses and take out of context the meaning of that.

To me then, that is evidence (not proof) of chess being a sport.  Whether it be a serious game of chess, designing a power plant on a timeline, or even budgeting down to a penny, I feel it - in my bones.  It hurts.  It has a physical toll.

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DrSpudnik
Aug 2, 2022
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#65

If you really want to be a sport, don't bother people with this nonsense again.

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SamPrime101
Aug 2, 2022
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#66
DrSpudnik wrote:

If you really want to be a sport, don't bother people with this nonsense again.

I think you've not read the first post of this thread.  My point - it is irrelevant if chess is a sport.  Doesn't matter, and is relatively unprovable - especially when considering a global society.

Interesting question though - why are feelings mixed on this topic?  No one really disagrees about arachnids.  Spiders, ticks, and scorpions - all arachnids.  Besides a handful of professional and amateur arachnologists, I assume there is little debate about one or the other belonging.  Why?  Does anyone doubt the Sun is a ball of hot plasma in a constant state of nuclear fusion?

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AllOutForTheWin
Aug 2, 2022
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#67

In a word... Yes

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DrSpudnik
Aug 3, 2022
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#68
SamPrime101 wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:

If you really want to be a sport, don't bother people with this nonsense again.

I think you've not read the first post of this thread.  My point - it is irrelevant if chess is a sport.  Doesn't matter, and is relatively unprovable - especially when considering a global society.

Interesting question though - why are feelings mixed on this topic?  No one really disagrees about arachnids.  Spiders, ticks, and scorpions - all arachnids.  Besides a handful of professional and amateur arachnologists, I assume there is little debate about one or the other belonging.  Why?  Does anyone doubt the Sun is a ball of hot plasma in a constant state of nuclear fusion?

I did read the OP. It's dumb and superfluous. 

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blueemu
Aug 3, 2022
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#69
Jalex13 wrote:
According to the dictionaries it includes physical exertion.

How about Blitz using VERY heavily weighted pieces? Like... fifty kilograms each.

Is THAT a sport?

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SamPrime101
Aug 3, 2022
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#70
DrSpudnik wrote:
SamPrime101 wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:

If you really want to be a sport, don't bother people with this nonsense again.

I think you've not read the first post of this thread.  My point - it is irrelevant if chess is a sport.  Doesn't matter, and is relatively unprovable - especially when considering a global society.

Interesting question though - why are feelings mixed on this topic?  No one really disagrees about arachnids.  Spiders, ticks, and scorpions - all arachnids.  Besides a handful of professional and amateur arachnologists, I assume there is little debate about one or the other belonging.  Why?  Does anyone doubt the Sun is a ball of hot plasma in a constant state of nuclear fusion?

I did read the OP. It's dumb and superfluous. 

Dumb and superfluous?

I must say, you have a keen judgment not to be overlooked.

I guess some of us get tired of discussing thermodynamics, politics, and finances 24/7.  God forgive me for taking a few minutes every week to dabble in the unimportant.

However, enough of that.  If I ever decide to finish my book "The Editorial Review Process for the 3rd Grader," I'd love for you to proofread it.  You're certainly on that wavelength.  Until then, how about you pull your lip over your head and swallow? wink 

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Jalex13
Aug 3, 2022
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#71
[Quietly watching in suspense as blood pressures rise and tension builds]
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idilis
Aug 3, 2022
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#72
blueemu wrote:
Jalex13 wrote:
According to the dictionaries it includes physical exertion.

How about Blitz using VERY heavily weighted pieces? Like... fifty kilograms each.

Is THAT a sport?

No that's hernia

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mrfreezyiceboy
Aug 3, 2022
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#73

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

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idilis
Aug 3, 2022
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#74
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

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mrfreezyiceboy
Aug 3, 2022
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#75
idilis লিখেছেন:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

Should I be happy about this?

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idilis
Aug 3, 2022
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#76
xXCRY0TICXx2 wrote:
idilis wrote:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

Do I get a gold medal? 

does every athlete get a gold medal?

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idilis
Aug 3, 2022
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#77
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
idilis লিখেছেন:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

Should I be happy about this?

should i tell you how to feel?

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mrfreezyiceboy
Aug 3, 2022
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#78
idilis লিখেছেন:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
idilis লিখেছেন:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

Should I be happy about this?

should i tell you how to feel?

Should I tell you if you should tell me how to feel?

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idilis
Aug 3, 2022
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#79
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
idilis লিখেছেন:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
idilis লিখেছেন:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

Should I be happy about this?

should i tell you how to feel?

Should I tell you if you should tell me how to feel?

that's for a new topic like ama.

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idilis
Aug 3, 2022
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#80
xXCRY0TICXx2 wrote:
idilis wrote:
xXCRY0TICXx2 wrote:
idilis wrote:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

I've seen like 50 of these threads already

reading these threads is a sport. congrats. you're an athlete now.

Do I get a gold medal? 

does every athlete get a gold medal?

Idk do I though?

you don't know? then i don't know.