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Beelzebub666
Beelzebub666
Jan 20, 2009
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#21
atomichicken wrote:
Beelzebub666 wrote:
atomichicken wrote:
camdawg17 wrote:

Only rookie players ask this question.  Every experienced player knows that the dark squared bishop is always better especially when it comes to mating and killing.  THe white squared bishop always has inner turmoil when faced with the decision to kill another seeing as this goes against it's moral beliefs.

I sincerely hope this joke doesn't have any racist elements to it. Have I got the completely wrong end of the stick, and it's just an innocent bit of fun?

Never heard of the concepts of light and dark in the moral context?  Been living under a rock?

 

Honestly, people shouldn't have to defend themselves against ridiculous racism accusations all the time.  The oversensitive fool's making said accusations need to stop looking for opportunities to be offended and show off how PC they are.

OK, sorry, calm down. It seems obvious now, but it didn't at the time. I didn't accuse him of racism, just inquired in the politest possible manner. What makes you think I was "looking for an opportunity to be offended", do you have access to my mind? I could just as easily say about you that you need to "stop looking for an opportunity to lecture the easily offended on how much of a fool they are".

 Now you're just saying that because i'm black.  Racist.

atomichicken
atomichicken
Jan 20, 2009
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#22
Beelzebub666 wrote:
atomichicken wrote:
Beelzebub666 wrote:
atomichicken wrote:
camdawg17 wrote:

Only rookie players ask this question.  Every experienced player knows that the dark squared bishop is always better especially when it comes to mating and killing.  THe white squared bishop always has inner turmoil when faced with the decision to kill another seeing as this goes against it's moral beliefs.

I sincerely hope this joke doesn't have any racist elements to it. Have I got the completely wrong end of the stick, and it's just an innocent bit of fun?

Never heard of the concepts of light and dark in the moral context?  Been living under a rock?

 

Honestly, people shouldn't have to defend themselves against ridiculous racism accusations all the time.  The oversensitive fool's making said accusations need to stop looking for opportunities to be offended and show off how PC they are.

OK, sorry, calm down. It seems obvious now, but it didn't at the time. I didn't accuse him of racism, just inquired in the politest possible manner. What makes you think I was "looking for an opportunity to be offended", do you have access to my mind? I could just as easily say about you that you need to "stop looking for an opportunity to lecture the easily offended on how much of a fool they are".

 Now you're just saying that because i'm black.  Racist.

lol Yeah, that's absolutely correct. Smile

staggerlee
staggerlee
Jan 20, 2009
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#23

What a waste of server space.

RandomPrecision
RandomPrecision
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Jan 20, 2009
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#24

The bishop bound to the squares of your side's color is the best.  That is, the light-squared bishop is better for white, and the dark squared bishop is better for black.

You can't do the Greek Gift sacrifice with the other one, after all. Cool

sss3006
sss3006
Jan 21, 2009
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#25

Depends on game i suppose - which eye would u rather have - left or right when ur in a fight? depends on which side ur opponents are right?

danati622
danati622
Aug 27, 2012
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#26

it seems to me that since f2 and f7 are considered weak squares. defensively, i would like to capture the colored bishop that attacks those squares.

loserss
loserss
Oct 5, 2020
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#27
camdawg17 wrote:

Only rookie players ask this question.  Every experienced player knows that the dark squared bishop is always better especially when it comes to mating and killing.  THe white squared bishop always has inner turmoil when faced with the decision to kill another seeing as this goes against it's moral beliefs.

what a load of BS !!

loserss
loserss
Oct 5, 2020
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#28

what a load...!!

lucky_Nan
lucky_Nan
Feb 21, 2021
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#29

the both ave there uses. true.

 

lucky_Nan
lucky_Nan
Feb 21, 2021
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#30

ugh.

 

lucky_Nan
lucky_Nan
Feb 21, 2021
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#31

light or dark?

Crane_Chess
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Jul 21, 2021
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#32
Ricardo_Morro wrote:

It depends on whether you are playing White or Black. For both sides, the king bishop has a hair more value at the start; this is a white-diagonals bishop for White and a dark-diagonals bishop for Black. The reason is because this is the bishop which in many openings can aim at the traditional weak spots, the king bishop pawn for the uncastled king (f2, f7) and the king rook pawn for the king-side castled king (h2, h7). Likewise, these are the bishops which can pin the enemy knight against the uncastled king in the early going, a slightly stronger pin than the one pinning a knight to the queen. Other than that, there is no intrinsic advantage. 

good analysis

MoistCritikal478
MoistCritikal478
Jan 18, 2022
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#33
loserss wrote:
camdawg17 wrote:

Only rookie players ask this question.  Every experienced player knows that the dark squared bishop is always better especially when it comes to mating and killing.  THe white squared bishop always has inner turmoil when faced with the decision to kill another seeing as this goes against it's moral beliefs.

what a load of BS !!

this is actually true, I personally believe it to be something all chess players no matter the rating need to understand this to be able to succeed 

TheBarcaGuy
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May 14, 2023
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#34
camdawg17 wrote:

Only rookie players ask this question. Every experienced player knows that the dark squared bishop is always better especially when it comes to mating and killing. THe white squared bishop always has inner turmoil when faced with the decision to kill another seeing as this goes against it's moral beliefs. I totally agree with this, but DivineKnight is right as well.

TheRealTorchLit
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May 14, 2023
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#35
Neither. Rooks are better
DustinJMyers
DustinJMyers
Mar 20, 2024
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#36

Always depends on which opening or position you are playing, for instance the Jobava London utilizes a dark squared bishop on f4 and a knight on c3 which eventually jumps to b5 in some cases presenting a lot of tactical ideas for white... if this bishop is captured all of those ideas are dead. If all of blacks pawns end up on dark squares your bishop is bad... light squared bishop d3 is often deployed in the London as well which targets the long diagonal corner pawn h7 if for instance white plays Qh5 or Qf3, Qh3 you are usually threatening checkmating attacks. 
Because White is usually attacking the dark squared bishop for white usually poses positional threats to black where-as the light squared bishop poses mating threats. The dark-squared bishop is seen as a valuable piece to high level players because it poses more long-term problems for black where the light-squared bishop is probably more dangerous for lower rated players who forgot to play h6/h5 or g6 to defend the light-squares...
Furthermore... utilizing the the light-squared bishop in White's attack... say White pushing h4,h5 w/ bishop d3 and Queenf3 ideas black usually responds to the attack by pushing a pawn to g6, or h6/h5 as mentioned earlier... when this happens black is also severely weakening "you guessed it" all of their dark squares which can then be exploited to eventually mate black.

FireWalkWM
FireWalkWM
May 20, 2024
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#37
Jythier wrote:

As white, I usually think the light squared bishop is better. As black, the dark squared.

The same feeling...