which is more complex,chess or xiangqi(chinese chess)?

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DragonKnightXII wrote:
I would say that Xianqi is more complex than chess but Shogi is more complex than both Chess and Xianqi

Yes, Yes, for sure!

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Benzodiazépine sad all!!! Lol End of discussion

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Minotaurus36 wrote:

Benzodiazépine sad all!!! Lol End of discussion

OK OK! End of discussion now!

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1d4_2-0 wrote:
xiangqi is more complex than chess definitely.

Yeah that's for sure!

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  Chess, Xianqi , Shogi, and GO are all more complex than the human minds ability to compute all possible positions, variations etc.....  AI has shown us that even the best humans do not see all the possibilities and variations.  So simply enjoy one or all!  And enjoy arguing their merits over drinks!

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Nghtstalker wrote:

  Chess, Xianqi , Shogi, and GO are all more complex than the human minds ability to compute all possible positions, variations etc.....  AI has shown us that even the best humans do not see all the possibilities and variations.  So simply enjoy one or all!  And enjoy arguing their merits over drinks!

I believe you.

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echecetmat55 wrote:
Idk how to play xiangki but it seems interesting 🧐

Yeah, Idk too!

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I'm not gonna say anything about which one is more complex.. the thing is that both are very complex and very fun.

Someone in this topic brought up that the elephant is not important in Xiangqi, and lol, that's very wrong. It's clearly someone who doesn't understand the game yet. The elephant is a key piece, very important for defense, and hell yes, it can be used for aiding in attack. Not just for attacking the opponent's pieces past the riverbank, but also for blocking the opponent's pieces while allowing an attack. They can also serve as a cannon mount. The person even said that "it can not defend against the cannon because the cannon can jump", but that makes no sense. The cannon can jump ONE piece, but not two at once. That's why the full guard is made of elephants AND advisors.

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Xiangqi as it has a larger board, more possibilities, triple and even quadruple check. However, chess has promotion and castling, so both are as complex as each other.

I am from Singapore, and I play both Chess and Xiangqi.

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I think more Chess players should give other forms of Chess a try.  It is good to learn something different!  All these games have strengths and weaknesses.

 

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On the stream of the Candidates Tournament, Russian grandmaster Daniil Dubov said that xiangqi is for normal people, and ordinary chess is for downs:

https://youtu.be/VdpgSGEhXYg

So I guess xiangqi is more complex having greater cognitive and game complexity, despite the number of possible positions and the so-called mathematical complexity.

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www.youtube.com/c/ASMRChessXiangqi

The best tutorial for Xiangqi

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Both games chess and xiangqi are hard to learn.

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Bro. Chinese chess is a bit harder. More complex.

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all games are not that hard to learn. BUT EXTREMELY HARD TO MASTER.

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Remellion wrote:

Correct; the harder-to-see critical line is 1. Kc8 Ke7 2. Kc7 Kf8 3. Ng6+ Kf7 and now 4. ___! is the only winning move.

(Although I personally find xiangqi endgame studies much much harder to calculate out, that's probably because I suck at it. Then again, winning a rook vs all advisors and elephants (单车对士象全) endgame from one of the won starting positions is HARD.)

Whoa I'm also a xiangqi beginner, and I also suck at it, but maybe we can play sometime if you'd like 😄

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wjcsz wrote:

Everyday in China there is much discussion about chess and xiangqi that which is more complex. I want to konw your opinions about this,friends from all over the world.Especially the friends from Vietnam,because Vietnam maybe is the only country which has both many strong chess masters and xiangqi masters besides China.Thanks.

I have to go with xiangqi

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Xiangqi is very tactic more tactic than western chess. His cannyon is a very tactical piece.

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I don't know xianqi so I cant help with this conversation

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