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Who is better among following(that is whose playing style you like the most)?

A. Anand

B. Carlsen

C. Topalov

D. Any other(please specify)

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D. Aronian

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Since rating is a measure of performance, there is no doubt that Carlsen has performed best in the recent year.

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But anand beats carlsen 11-8 right now with 20-something draws!

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Carlsen has started to turn the tide though, and as of lately he is finally starting to defeat Anand.

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Until someone beats Anand in a match, they cannot claim that they are better. A match that has 10 games or more is a more reliable measure than a difference of 20 rating points or so.

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Anand is best.

Anand is world champion, so there can be no question Anand is best. Carlsen is highest rated, but that does not mean he's best.

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and yes of course,Who is the current regning champion?

Vishy.

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Anand is the world champion, I have no idea how much he studies\works, he's been doing it for how long now? Most of his life?

 

And the same for Topalov, and Anand beat him. Carlsen may have more potential but in terms of experience Anand tops him. Unless Anand gets real nervous (?) before a match with Carlsen, I think he may win because of experience... But I dunno. Topalov also could win him I think. I think Anand is the best one for now but I'm not sure, my money is on him tho.

Carlsen is still gonna improve tho, if he keeps working, while the others may be past their prime already...

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Carlsen is highest rated on FIDE but a match between Anand and Carlsen would be the answer.

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SimonSeirup wrote:

Anand is best.

Anand is world champion, so there can be no question Anand is best.Carlsen is highest rated, but that does not mean he's best.


 +1

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What will be interesting to me is to see Carlsen's strength as a match player.  I have to guess (because I don't know the guy) but his mental toughness seems good, and I think his preparation will of course be top notch as well (his memory+youth+Garry's points on how to train).

Still, we won't know until we see it.  Yes Anand would be at a disadvantage, I just wonder how much (if at all Smile) his match experience will compensate.

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The preparation for the match can have a great impact on the outcome. Also, the seconds for each player can as well. But I think the world really wants to see Carlsen the Candidate. I know I do.

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Estragon wrote:
SimonSeirup wrote:

Anand is best.

Anand is world champion, so there can be no question Anand is best. Carlsen is highest rated, but that does not mean he's best.


 

Of course - you never know for sure until the match is played.

 

Carlsen's record in the last year or so cannot be simply dismissed.  He was not so strong when the last WC cycle began, so he had to wait his turn. 

But Carlsen has nothing but first places with one second, and a tie for first in the unrated Melody Amber blindfold/rapid competition.  These aren't including any "easy" events like Larsen's five wins in a row in the '60s, they are super-GM tournaments, some of the strongest EVER held.

Kasparov and Karpov showed similar years of utterly dominating the chess world while they were champions, but the fields they faced weren't quite so strong - and Carlsen is 19.  Not even Fischer could do this at 19; only Morphy and perhaps Tal could rise to the top of the world by their 20th birthday.

 

Anand is a great player and will fight hard to retain his title.  The odds will be against him, though, if the opponent is Carlsen, who is still on a steep upwards climb in strength.


no doubt carlsen is young but as chess is a mental excercise ,then there is no matter of age a brain works for a long range of age,though carlsen has achieved so much at younger age but this doesn't means that his chess skills are higher than older aged players like anand,Anand is also improving continuously,and i don't think there is a prime in chess learning if a player keeps studying.

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Mephisto wrote:
ShankarBhatnagar wrote:
 

no doubt carlsen is young but as chess is a mental excercise ,then there is no matter of age a brain works for a long range of age,though carlsen has achieved so much at younger age but this doesn't means that his chess skills are higher than older aged players like anand,Anand is also improving continuously,and i don't think there is a prime in chess learning if a player keeps studying.


incorrect. Age has to have an impact on the ability to sit down for 7 hours and count innumerable variations move after move, and come up with the best answer everytime, because at these guy's level, a sight inaccuracy can prove disastrous. Carlsen starts at an advantage if he is to play Anand in 2012, but Anand is a fighter and it would be one hell of a match !


you may be right but anand is not that old!

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Although highest rating does not necessarily equal best in the world, I still think that Carlsen could beat Anand in a match, for some reason.

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Supposedly most chess players peak in terms of strength at 35 (?) if I remember.

Also the learning curve or some such thing tapers off after 8 years of study... after the 8th year progression in strength is supposedly incremental.

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Carlsen fans seem to think its a given that he will go through the candidates to challenge Anand. I think they could be sadly mistaken as I believe Carlsen will have troubles with a player like Aronian in match play too, and there are others. The simple truth is that Carlsen has no match experience at this level and this will be a disadvantage to him and I am not sure his youth is enough of an advantage to offset his relative lack of match experience at the highest level.....

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I for one would not be shocked at all to see Carlsen lose a match to Aronian or Topalov and not even make it to a match with Anand....

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Reb wrote:

I for one would not be shocked at all to see Carlsen lose a match to Aronian or Topalov and not even make it to a match with Anand....


This is a good point -- I agree.