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goldendog
Tricklev wrote:

Reb, if you read the post I quoted, you will see that fyy0r claimed that Fischer wanted Kosteniuk in 1992. My post was sarcasm directed thowards the fact that Kosteniuk was 8 at the time, and that fyy0r obviously made that up.


When Fischer said it, Kosteniuk was no child.

fyy0r
Tricklev wrote:

Reb, if you read the post I quoted, you will see that fyy0r claimed that Fischer wanted Kosteniuk in 1992. My post was sarcasm directed thowards the fact that Kosteniuk was 8 at the time, and that fyy0r obviously made that up.

It was sarcasm directed thowards fyy0r, it was not an attack against Fischer, if you had turned your hero worship down a notch you would have noticed that Reb. Althuogh I have heard claims that Americans have a hard time with sarcasm, so it might not be your fault.


That's your interpretation of what I wrote, and ofcourse it's incorrect.  No, ofcourse Fischer doesn't like 8 year olds.  His response to Spassky's letter wasn't in 1992, it was over the radio in the Phillipines.  Here's the exact quote from the radio interview somewhere early to mid 2000's:

Fischer: I saw it, I didn’t like it. I didn’t like the tone – he was trying to make me sound like a weirdie.  And he is begging, asking Bush for mercy? What is this?

Anchor: He said that if you had done something wrong he had done the same and should be put into your cell with you.

Fischer: I don’t want him in my cell!  I want a chick in my cell!  How about that young chick, what’s her name, what’s that Russian chick, Kosteniuk?  This Spassky, he is a very good “frenemy” of mine – a friend and enemy.  (Alexandra Kosteniuk, born in 1984, became Woman’s World Champion in 2008.)

jesterville

...so if Kosteniuk was born in 1984, she would have been 15-16 in 2000 when Fischer made this statement. How old was Fischer at this time?

Does anybody else see something wrong with this?...or maybe he was just channeling his "inner pedofile".

raul72
jesterville wrote:

...so if Kosteniuk was born in 1984, she would have been 15-16 in 2000 when Fischer made this statement. How old was Fischer at this time?

Does anybody else see something wrong with this?...or maybe he was just channeling his "inner pedofile".


 Amigo, Do you ever read a chess book? Or a chess magazine? Watch tv, listen to the radio---surf the net?

It was 2004 and Kosteniuk was 20! Pull your head out and take a deep breath of fresh air and repeat 20 times---I will stop making idiotic posts, I will stop making idiotic posts, I will stop making idiotic posts...

goldendog

Fischer's comment comes from 2004, as I googled for it, making Kosteniuk an adult at the time.

jesterville

raul72,

I was refering to post #414 which mentioned the date as 2000...and I began my post with "if she was born in 1984..." I did not make the original post...nor did I have the time to check anything because I am on the road...before you make personal attacks you should read properly.

fyy0r
jesterville wrote:

raul72,

I was refering to post #414 which mentioned the date as 2000...and I began my post with "if she was born in 1984..." I did not make the original post...nor did I have the time to check anything because I am on the road...before you make personal attacks you should read properly.


I meant early to mid 2000's as the decade, not as in "somewhere during 2000".  I'll try and be more clear next time.

Hendrik77

In my oppinion Bobby Fischer. Not to mention his brilliant mind he had to work his way up to the very top without the major systematic backup the soviet players had.

And his name, his match with Spassky and incredible fuzz around it has popularised the game the most.

The King!!

marcelom2

yes it is

raul72
jesterville wrote:

raul72,

I was refering to post #414 which mentioned the date as 2000...and I began my post with "if she was born in 1984..." I did not make the original post...nor did I have the time to check anything because I am on the road...before you make personal attacks you should read properly.


 Jesterville, you began your post with "if".

You can do anything with an if! For instance---If your aunt had huevos---she'd be your uncle, verdad! Surprised

Why not do better research and then you wont have wriggle out of your mistakes. Smile

dannyhume
eggs?! (in cubano, like oh say Capablanca?)
jesterville

raul72,

I would normally do some research first before posting, but like I said, I was on the road zipping in and out...but I will "man up"- mea culpa...my fault...

marcelom2

the answer is very easy: bobby fischer

mdmdmd63

it's like choosing between Ronaldo (the brazilian), Zico, Pele and Gurincha.

For me ther is no one specific, but the best pure talent is Capablanca-no training, no efforts, chasing wimen and still the cream of the cream

gaereagdag

Harry Nelson Pillsbury.

Anyone who can win Hastings over all the great masters of the day, and find the time to contract syphillis, must be the all time best.

chess2Knights

Did he die from Syphillis?

gaereagdag

Yes.

nameno1had

For blitz....Tal

For a regular timed game....Capablanca

For a standard match....Fischer

For a tournament and a career.... Karpov

....and because of well rounded ability for me to learn from.... Petrosian

batgirl

But probably not contracted at Hastings as inferred.

chess2Knights

Thanks for the Info.