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littlehotpot

can we please not bring religion into this topic

pdela

:-S

littlehotpot

Another debate, will we as humans ever be able to get to the speed of light barrier and will we be ever to break it. according to Einstein no but we have proved that impossible by being able to stop light( which Einstein didn't know how to) but with E=MC2 it may happen

khpa21

No, we will never break the light barrier. An infinite amount of energy would be required to do so.

pdela
littlehotpot wrote:

Another debate, will we as humans ever be able to get to the speed of light barrier and will we be ever to break it. according to Einstein no but we have proved that impossible by being able to stop light( which Einstein didn't know how to) but with E=MC2 it may happen


no sense

khpa21

By the way E=mc^2 implies that the object isn't moving. If it is moving, the equation becomes E=mc^2+pc. And no, p is not mv, it's mv/(1-v^2/c^2)^1/2

littlehotpot

OK Broken down.

what it said that we have moved onto another topic.

I was asking if humans could break the light speed barrier

I then went onto say that Einstein said that if you reach the speed of light then that would mean that your mass would increase

However Einstien didn't know everything.

we have proved some of his theroies wrong. so

altogether do we think that humans can get to the speed of light

pdela

NO

khpa21

The special theory of relativity is not wrong. The essential foundations of his theory are the following [correct] postulates:

  • The laws of physics are the same in all frames of reference
  • The speed of light is the same in all frames of reference(this is what leads to all the odd predictions of SR)

The reason for the 2nd postulate is for Maxwell's equations to hold in all frames of reference. Since they can be expressed as tensor equations, this must be true. Please investigate more into Special Relativity before you try to pit your opinion against Einstein's, Maxwell's, Lorentz's, Minkowski's, Planck's, and the opinions of all the great 20th century physicists.

littlehotpot

I didn't say that the theory was wrong. was just saying that other of his ideas were wrong

ivandh

If special relativity is not wrong then we can't reach the speed of light. He could have been wrong about his shopping lists but that doesn't have any bearing.

TheGrobe

Even if it's wrong we won't reach the speed of light.  The energies involved are far beyond anything we'll ever be capable of.

ivandh

I think the waffle debate was much more interesting.

khpa21
littlehotpot wrote:

I didn't say that the theory was wrong. was just saying that other of his ideas were wrong


That doesn't have anything to do with the impossibility of light-speed travel.

ilikeflags
littlehotpot wrote:

can we please not bring religion into this topic


sorry but i vote we can. 

littlehotpot

Why. We are not allowed to

ilikeflags
ivandh wrote:

I think the waffle debate was much more interesting.


me too.

by the way, well done to the slovakians today for upending the "world" champs.

littlehotpot

OK, why is everybody talking about waffles

ivandh

Because they are Awesome

ilikeflags
littlehotpot wrote:

OK, why is everybody talking about waffles


you're thick dude.  why do you think people are talking about waffles?