Why Are People Still Bothered By Losing to a Woman?

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Nickalispicalis71 wrote:

Chess is not about Intelligence at all. I have a few friends with more degrees then a thermometer who would be hard pressed to crack 1300 in chess. It is all about pattern recognition and abstract reasoning. A good dose of autism does not hurt either. I do not consider Snarlsen or Kasparov to be especially intelligent. Outside of Chess, average at best.

Who is Snarlsen? A new prodigy?

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VicountVonJames wrote:

How long to you give KaosKid before he's banned for profanities?

No, he gets a warning first! lol

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Prangsta wrote:

I am such a gentleman that I actually go out of my way to lose when playing women; laying down the proverbial cloak across the puddle is only the polite thing to do... 

This is hilarious. 

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Simple, some people just can't get rid of the fact that you can't win all the time.

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stuzzicadenti wrote:

Most PUI (pick up artist) say that a man will have the advantage in an interaction with female if he can make himself look like an idiot in front of her, this relaxes her mind and can make a conversation more casual and make you more interesting for her, which is the whole point. If you apply thus idea to chess then it is always a good idea to lose against female in game so you can gain her trust and respect. After the first game she will want to play again (maybe another day) and then you can show your true ability. It will be fascinating for her that you were hiding something (in a good way not bad).

Except for a couple of things. First, looking like an idiot does not relax me. A day at the beach listening to Zac Brown relaxes me. Somene who knows what they want and isn't worried if I agree or not relaxes me. My dog relaxes me. Someone who is intentionally looking like an idiot is, well, that's self explanatory.

Secondly, losing to me does not gain my trust or respect. Trust and respect are gained by how someone acts, what they say, and if that is consistent over a long period of time. Winning or losing a chess game makes no difference. Your suggestion of playing again another day where the "true ability" comes out is the opposite of trust and respect. It shows me he was intentionally deceitful the first time.

As I said before I have found many people would RATHER lose to a woman, not bothered by it. But I think sometimes it's because they simply are not playing their normal game for whatever reason.

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I'm pretty sure that's a minority opinion. the polgar sisters have absolutely had an impact on the entire chess world, not just women's chess, and some of the greatest of all time, RJF for example, study women's games back in the 60's when sexism was the norm in America and in many other places. it's hard to ignore the ELO rating discrepancy between the top males and females in the game, but I feel that's because woman are still burdened with having to prove themselves in other realms of intellectual achievement and unfortunately chess just isn't as important as others to them yet. I hope, for the sake of chess and humankind in general, the pursuit of greatness in chess becomes more widespread for all the sexes and that we get to see a female/transgender or any sex other than male, take over as the top player in the world. in the mean time, if you have daughters, sisters, neices, cousins, or any one really, I encourage you to try and open your eyes to this beautiful game. it's changed my life and I one day want to live in a world where asking a new acquaintance to a game of chess is as normal a way of getting to know them as getting coffee is in itself.

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stuzzicadenti wrote:

When a man loses in chess to a woman, what is going in his mind is this: "I am supposed to be big, strong, tough, macho, a provider and protector for her. If I cannot even beat her in a chess game then she must think that all of these things are impossible for me to do. She will never have any respect for me".

 

That happens only to men who don't get out much and get their experience and knowledge about the world from marginal Internet communities. tongue.png

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Women are inferior to men when it comes to the game of Chess.  I am sorry, but that is a fact.  Of course there are exceptions, but that does not invalidate the general rule.  There are probably occupations and professions where the female brain is superior to that of the male.  

Pointing out differences does not make one a sexist. We are not all equal.  

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We are not all the same, that doesn't mean we can't be equal.  

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TremaniSunChild wrote:
Nickalispicalis71 wrote:

Chess is not about Intelligence at all. I have a few friends with more degrees then a thermometer who would be hard pressed to crack 1300 in chess. It is all about pattern recognition and abstract reasoning. A good dose of autism does not hurt either. I do not consider Snarlsen or Kasparov to be especially intelligent. Outside of Chess, average at best.

Who is Snarlsen? A new prodigy?

 

If the adjective fits ? After going more than a year without winning a classical tournament, one could sense and see his growing agitation and frustration culminating in his now famous encounter with Maurice Ashley.  Yes, Snarlsen seems to fit. 

 

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I don't think I would mind losing to a woman.

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I have lost to women and don't mind because I had the privilege of their company while playing. The female chess players I played tended to be easy on the eyes....has anybody else noticed this?

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Wuold somebody who views losing to a woman differently than to a man pls help me out with my curiosity ?

 

What if that woman used to be a man (i.e. had a sex change operation)?  Would it still be like losing to a woman?

 

What if that man used to be a woman?

What if you lost to a woman who later tells you that she identifies as a man?

What if you lost to a man who later tells you that he identifies as a woman?

 

 

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Nobody feels bad about it but if they do take it as a compliment
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One of those posts one uses to write when bored or wasted, huh? What a total nonsense. It's like "why are people still bothered by losing to a green-eyed rival?". Really, man... speechless.

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ChrisWainscott wrote:
You should be willing to work harder because you lost. Who cares if that loss was to a woman or a man?

loaded question, blatant and too obvious.

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Men who can't handle losing to a female aren't men. They are still boys. 

Or they think men are superior to women.

Silly boys.  

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chess_kebabs wrote:

Men who can't handle losing to a female aren't men. They are still boys. 

Or they think men are superior to women.

Silly boys.  

I wouldn't argue with that! It bothers me getting beat by anyone.     cry.png

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Dustin-Dweeber wrote:

its no joke getting beat by a woman, everyone points at you and laughs after the game

With the due respect, that's nonsense. The one doing so deserves to be called an asshole. I'd be a bit disappointed (not ashamed) if I lost to a rival inferior in ELO, woman, man or baboon. Maybe it'd be different in boxing or basketball, where men are simply genetically stronger, but chess?? What's so shameful about losing to someone who has been better than you on the board? I've faced many many strong female chess players on the board, and I've never been ashamed nor disrespectful to any of them. It's not a matter of sex, but education I'd say.