Why do Americans like Bobby Fischer?

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gaereagdag

He was a nut from 1975 onwwards. That was his year of nuttiness. If a secret government program to create chess nuts involved him, it was in that year.

AndyClifton
CalamityChristie wrote:

besides his name probly aint catchy, so might need a username

You mean like Garri?

DrFrank124c

He stood up to the Soviet Machine and then he stood up to the American Machine. Hooray for Bobby. He was a great chessplayer and a man of great courage!

kovey

AndyClifton mentioned Fischer once losing 0-4 to Tal. I believe Tal is the only one to hold a lifetime edge over Fischer. Tal, the Magician of Riga, in my opinion wrote the best chess books. Regarding some moves he made he simple honestly said he made those moves because they seemed like the right moves to make at the time.  Too bad he was always in ill health that shortened his competitve playing days. While Fischer was winning the World's Championship the doctors were treating Tal with new medication that seemed be working wonders. I believe Tal won five straight major tournaments and the chess world was looking forward to them meeting. Unfortunately, Tal feel into ill health again and was in no condition to play Fischer. What a clash that would have been! Can you imagine the wonderful games they would have produced!

PLAVIN81

He was a good winner and a simple personality

AndyClifton
kovey wrote:

AndyClifton mentioned Fischer once losing 0-4 to Tal.


I was being facetious (just for a lark).

CalamityChristie

believing is one thing, research is another.

Geller had a plus over the fish.

AndyClifton

He was a simple winner and a good personality!

CalamityChristie

sounds like something kenpo would say.

AndyClifton

For now though, I guess we'll just have to imagine... Smile

Pre_VizsIa
dannyhume wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:

In fact I agree with Bobby Fischer on the vast majority of things he said. I hate America also, most of the world does.


Let's hope the world stays safe enough so that we can all keep hating America, 1917-18 and 1942-45 notwithstanding.    

I like that.

AndyClifton

Aha, "scholarly literature"!  Case closed.

DrFrank124c
_yiquan_ wrote:
corrijean wrote:

Didn't the nazis purge the mentally disabled and gays, too? Wealth is clearly not the root of nazis' anti-semite propaganda.

well sort of. see they used psychiatry and mental illness as a way to circumvent laws, norms and mores in order to lock people in psychwards, misdiagnose them with a bogus mental illness in aims to silence, discredit and dehumanize them. which of course then made them ideal candidates for human experimentation. no one cares about people who are labeled as "mentally ill". 

the holocaust started in the psychwards in germany with the nazi psychiatrists.

this same political technique, the use of psychiatry and mental illness to circumvent laws (violate constitutional and human rights) and then discredit/silence dissidents by having them diagnosed with some bogus mental illness was also used in the soviet union by the kgb. there's much scholarly literature on the matter. 

has anyone heard of adrian schoolkraft? A

Same thing is done here and now in the good old USA.

TheOldReb
kovey wrote:

AndyClifton mentioned Fischer once losing 0-4 to Tal. I believe Tal is the only one to hold a lifetime edge over Fischer. Tal, the Magician of Riga, in my opinion wrote the best chess books. Regarding some moves he made he simple honestly said he made those moves because they seemed like the right moves to make at the time.  Too bad he was always in ill health that shortened his competitve playing days. While Fischer was winning the World's Championship the doctors were treating Tal with new medication that seemed be working wonders. I believe Tal won five straight major tournaments and the chess world was looking forward to them meeting. Unfortunately, Tal feel into ill health again and was in no condition to play Fischer. What a clash that would have been! Can you imagine the wonderful games they would have produced!

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ezsearch.pl?search=Fischer-Tal

Here you can see all of Tal's wins against Fischer were when Fischer was only 15 years old .  Thie experience so infuriated Fischer that he vowed Tal would never beat him again and Tal never won another game from Bobby .  Efim Geller also has an overall plus against Fischer and his wins are more impressive as Bobby wasnt still a teen . 

Xaltotun

Why not let the master make the rules for the world championship? I would be pissed, too.

TheGrobe

Sure, why not let the president make the rules for who gets to be the next president too?

Aspasa

I'm not so sure it was Fischer who was "crazy". I see suits and ties running this world who are absolutely loco.

For perspective, there were those who thought Galileo was crazy.

It is far from an honest world in which we live - starting with the internet. The arab spring will arrive in NA in a decade or so ... NA is so "miss informed" most of the time. IMHO of course.

onthehouse
Aspasa wrote:

 

For perspective, there were those who thought Galileo was crazy.

 

Then again, we don't have Galileo ranting on video.

Xaltotun
CalamityChristie wrote:

believing is one thing, research is another.

Geller had a plus over the fish.

Yup. Not Tal.

AndyClifton

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Fischer was crazy...

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