Why do people use always the same boring chess instead of trying to improve with creativity?

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I do my best trying out new ideas and creative checkmating patterns but people are always too busy trying their best in order to get that extra 8 points and be 1200 rated. lol

That is annoying as hell. Chess is supposed to be a creative game. Instead we have very repetitive moves.

I can't imagine playing chess as a job. How awful would it be to play theory for 30 or more moves.

Well, maybe I should just change my addiction to other strategy game, cause this one is just repetitive.

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Hello

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Hey!

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If you're playing to be creative instead of to win, then you're not playing correctly.

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Your fault if you're repetitive. Ignore #4. happy.png

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Wattaguy95 wrote:

If you're playing to be creative instead of to win, then you're not playing correctly.

 

If you are playing for a win but you are not creative, then you're not playing correctly

 

A lot of middlegame positions are complex. They require a certain degree of creativity to handle. Take smothered mates for example. A person who has yet to see such checkmates will not likely see them in advance, but once they learn them, they will try and find opportunities to do so. Even performing a smothered mate yourself for the first time will be creative (though it will appear less so over time once more people learn this smothered mate).

 

One of my past opponents (also a local chess friend of mine) was creative and played with unexpected moves to save his game...and he nearly snatched the game from me. I had to be creative myself to dodge that comeback from him.

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Salutehermano wrote:

I do my best trying out new ideas and creative checkmating patterns but people are always too busy trying their best in order to get that extra 8 points and be 1200 rated. lol

That is annoying as hell. Chess is supposed to be a creative game. Instead we have very repetitive moves.

I can't imagine playing chess as a job. How awful would it be to play theory for 30 or more moves.

Well, maybe I should just change my addiction to other strategy game, cause this one is just repetitive.

 

Having creativity to win a game is actually difficult. After all, we aren't going to get "bonus points" for a stylish checkmate. Have you tried a long winded way to solve a mathematics problem correctly and received bonus marks for your effort? In most circumstances, you will receive the same number of marks as others who use standard approaches to solve a question.

 

Creativity is usually seen in the higher echelons where positions appear to be difficult to break through and grandmasters have to come up with some idea to break apart defences.

 

 

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Creativity =/ Optimal. People play to win. To me, this sounds like a bad excuse for losing, because you were “playing creatively”. The whole point of chess is to win over your opponent. If you can’t handle that, because people “aren’t being creative and are more focused on earning elo”, then, this isn’t the game for you. Sorry.

 

(That being said, I’m not saying that you cannot be creative in chess.

Sometimes, you need to be really creative to find the best moves. However, 99% of the time, that creativity will just lead to a loss.)

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patterns ig

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Creativity =/ Optimal. People play to win. To me, this sounds like a bad excuse for losing, because you were “playing creatively”. The whole point of chess is to win over your opponent. If you can’t handle that, because people “aren’t being creative and are more focused on earning elo”, then, this isn’t the game for you. Sorry.

 

(That being said, I’m not saying that you cannot be creative in chess.

Sometimes, you need to be really creative to find the best moves. However, 99% of the time, that creativity will just lead to a loss.)

Depends how good you are on the day, of course.

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Salutehermano wrote:

I do my best trying out new ideas and creative checkmating patterns but people are always too busy trying their best in order to get that extra 8 points and be 1200 rated. lol

That is annoying as hell. Chess is supposed to be a creative game. Instead we have very repetitive moves.

I can't imagine playing chess as a job. How awful would it be to play theory for 30 or more moves.

Well, maybe I should just change my addiction to other strategy game, cause this one is just repetitive.

Or maybe you are confusing creativity with reinventing the wheel?

 

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Strange that I always, even after playing 15 moves of theory, end up with positions that I've never seen before and that require me to figure out things that I don't know. Can you please tell me your trick to avoid that?

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It's just personal taste, I think. A lot of times, I like to win without being creative, I really don't mind winning in the most boring, mindless way possible, as long as it's safe. But if I feel like I can't win without being creative, or if I see some opportunity that's too tempting for me to pass up, I'll be creative.

It's just personal taste, though. Some people really don't want to win unless it's in flashy style. That's great, that's how they have fun.

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Improving at chess means reducing the insane amount of creativity needed to play a game of chess to a more manageable level. When you start, all your games are "creative".

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But the OP has a point: when really strong players call someone creative, they usually mean that the person is an idiot. Or Ivanchuk.

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eventually every strategy game becomes more or less repetitive. "Creative" moves would most likely get you to lose. Unexpected openings are cool and all, but random moves that aren't expected usually aren't the best moves. So in that sense, the only creative players are the worst ones.

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I always accuse my opponents who beat me of lacking creativity, style and morals.  Well anything that's harder to measure than the game score.

We learn from the best

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Salutehermano wrote:

I do my best trying out new ideas and creative checkmating patterns but people are always too busy trying their best in order to get that extra 8 points and be 1200 rated. lol

That is annoying as hell. Chess is supposed to be a creative game. Instead we have very repetitive moves.

I can't imagine playing chess as a job. How awful would it be to play theory for 30 or more moves.

Well, maybe I should just change my addiction to other strategy game, cause this one is just repetitive.

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week!!!

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Creativity =/ Optimal. People play to win. To me, this sounds like a bad excuse for losing, because you were “playing creatively”. The whole point of chess is to win over your opponent. If you can’t handle that, because people “aren’t being creative and are more focused on earning elo”, then, this isn’t the game for you. Sorry.(That being said, I’m not saying that you cannot be creative in chess.

Sometimes, you need to be really creative to find the best moves. However, 99% of the time, that creativity will just lead to a loss.)"

> You had people giving you downvotes and it is unfair, I upvoted to counter that. I believe you are to a certain extent only, right. There is a misuse or even an abuse of the concept of creativity. You can be creative in art, you can be creative in painting, music etc... you can't be creative in math! chess is very much like math and nothing like music even if simple people would like to imagine it is, it is not.

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Bro don't hate the game, hate the players. Honestly, tho there should be better piece designs, i combines metal board with graffiti pieces, but i wish we could have customized pieces.