Why do so many resign early?

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denner

badger_song wrote:

ElKitch and denner...we aren't talking about drawn positions, or even losing positions,we are talking about hopeless positions..ie...nothing you do can salvage the game.Both of you know the difference.

I wasn't specifically responding to your post, just in general. But I know what you mean. Yet I learned some cool endgame techniques by having them done to me, even in a hopelessly lost position.

badger_song

This is not in reference to you denner...

Frankly,some of the posters here,are being intellectually dishonest.The discussion is clearly about resigning in hopeless positions,not postions where chances still exsist,either on the board or via the clock.To purposely maneuver the thread toward discussing why one wouldn't resign games wherein chances still exsisted is being disingenuous;and to borrow from madhacker,said posters are doing so for their own strange reasons.

biff55

The OP asked a perfectly reasonable question in a polite manner and got a load of offensive idiotic replies , which made those supposedly "in the know" look like the douche bags they really are.

I would imagine the real reason for early resignation from those below the super duper pro level has more to do with throwing the dummy out of pram when behind rather than any noble following of "etiquette" for the sake of the opponent.

Resign when you think it appropriate , not when others expect it.

ElKitch
badger_song wrote:

This is not in reference to you denner...

Frankly,some of the posters here,are being intellectually dishonest.The discussion is clearly about resigning in hopeless positions,not postions where chances still exsist,either on the board or via the clock.To purposely maneuver the thread toward discussing why one wouldn't resign games wherein chances still exsisted is being disingenuous;and to borrow from madhacker,said posters are doing so for their own strange reasons.

I read the OP again, it never says hopeless position. It says position where the Q is lost. First post says its good sportmanship in a hopeless position. Later on we start to discuss what exactly hopeless is. To some losing a queen is appearantly hopeless, to others it is not depending on the situation. I dont think thats a a usefull addition to this subject. 

RichColorado

I think that if they resign early is because they think someone is seeing them lose a game and their rating lowers. 

But that is completelly wrong. They are LOST in complete anonymity amongst the millionS on this site.

NOBODY cares what your results or rating changes are except yourself.

That includes me.

I find that in games played in team matches where they are playing games with many players, there's many games lost on time and they let them be marked as "LOST ON TIME" because they do not want to resign and that is unfair to the whole team.

                                     IMHO

ActiveKing
bobyyyy wrote:

I don't much care for quitters. I want to earn my win. Some people definitely give up too soon.

By the way, I have won games after losing my queen and unfortunately I have lost games after winning my opponent's queen. A good reason to never give up until it becomes extremely ridiculous to continue.

Is resigning when you are bored and learning nothing the definition of a "quitter"? Who knew? Having won an occasional game from a lost position is only a good reason to never give up if you are concerned about the result of the game. Personally, I play to enjoy myself and to improve, I couldn't care less about winning.

SkepticGuy
bobyyyy wrote:

 I want to earn my win.

Maybe that's my core issue. When the resignation comes early, when there is still plenty of opportunity, I'm sad.

I'd rather loose an interesting game than "win" from a pointless resignation.

Xilmi

I resign early because one of my opponents, a former chess-teacher in his 70s, tortured me by playing sub-ideal moves just good enough to still hold a big enough advantage to win for the rest of the game.

After the game he told me, that it was all on purpose and meant to teach me to resign earlier next time.

ActiveKing
Xilmi wrote:

I resign early because one of my opponents, a former chess-teacher in his 70s, tortured me by playing sub-ideal moves just good enough to still hold a big enough advantage to win for the rest of the game.

After the game he told me, that it was all on purpose and meant to teach me to resign earlier next time.

I do this on a regular basis, however, I never play these assholes again so I don't know whether or not any of them got the message. It had never even occured to me until now that some people are so stupid that they don't even realise the intention.

ActiveKing
...than "win" from a pointless resignation.

You start a thread to understand why people resign. They tell you why they resign. You continue to call resigning pointless. What a nice guy you are.

Jimmykay
SkepticGuy wrote:
bobyyyy wrote:

 I want to earn my win.

Maybe that's my core issue. When the resignation comes early, when there is still plenty of opportunity, I'm sad.

How much opportunity may still exist in a position is very much relative to the ability of the players. If two 1200 players are involved, the loss of a queen is not necessarily the end of things. If these players are 1800, that is the end...all other things being equal, it is not worth carrying on against a stronger player like that.

Ubik42
DENVERHIGH wrote:

I think that if they resign early is because they think someone is seeing them lose a game and their rating lowers. 

But that is completelly wrong. They are LOST in complete anonymity amongst the millionS on this site.

NOBODY cares what your results or rating changes are except yourself.

 

 

This is the best post in the whole thread and in any of the 10 threads to either side of it on the "hot topics" list.

Trust Denver - you are the only one who cares. No one else bothers to check up on you.

Fairy_Princess

They rate us?

SkepticGuy
ActiveKing wrote:
You start a thread to understand why people resign. They tell you why they resign. You continue to call resigning pointless. What a nice guy you are.

I believe I clearly qualified the type of resignations on which the opening post is based. 

ActiveKing
SkepticGuy wrote:
ActiveKing wrote:
You start a thread to understand why people resign. They tell you why they resign. You continue to call resigning pointless. What a nice guy you are.

I believe I clearly qualified the type of resignations on which the opening post is based. 

I don't understand. Does this relate to anything that I said? The answer is no. In fact, don't even bother replying to this. I'm sick of arguing with retards.

ActiveKing

Good for you.

Amianf
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Good-KnightJoe

I saw a 1800 rated player resign a game "just because." There was no advantage for either player. On move 16, one of them suddenly resigned for no apparent reason.

My opinion on that may vary but I think sometimes we get tired of playing too many games or just don't feel like continuing.

Ben_Dubuque

sometimes I resign because of Family commitments