Why do some people don't resign ?

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Prashant_1947

I dont understand whats problem in resigning. I played a 15|15 rapid game and was paired with a 1200. It was a beautiful game and i played a little bit aggressively . I ended with a position where i was able to play Mate in 1.It was my turn. So i waited for her to resign. We both had 13 min left but she didn't resign. I waited for few minutes more and then she offered a draw. I declined and waited longer. She didn't resign. So i finished game when 5 seconds were left i played that move. was she waiting for me to resign ? 

 

pjr2468
To be honest, waiting for someone to resign for 13 minutes when in a position to win in one move, is incredibly disrespectful. Your opponent could have resigned but chose not to. It is their choice. If they want to play it out to mate, it's up to them
Strangemover

Just give the checkmate and stop being so childish.

pjr2468
Also, don't go criticising someone else's play, when just the game before this one you gave the same opponent a win in 2 moves...
Prashant_1947
Gruber86 wrote:
Also, don't go criticising someone else's play, when just the game before this one you gave the same opponent a win in 2 moves...

I think you got it wrong.I am not criticising her.i mistekanely played f5 thats why i resigned. + it was mate in 1 anyways

Prashant_1947

Ohh and did i mention i was offered draw in that position ?

Prashant_1947

Hmmmm yes 

pjr2468
Re: #4. The game lasted 2 moves, therefore it was a win in 2 moves for your opponent.
jbolden1517
Strangemover wrote:

Just give the checkmate and stop being so childish.

 

He's not being childish, he was wronged.  This is an annoying behavior of people burning up the clock rather than resigning.  He's not playing for a lot of money where inconvenience doesn't matter.   He's playing for entertainment and he's not getting it because his opponent is being badly behaved.   Being able to answer "yes" to "Is chess a good hobby" requires that lots of the valid reasons for answering "no" be eliminated. 

 

pjr2468
#14 I think you misunderstand. It was the OP's turn and was waiting for the opponent to resign, yet waited 13 minutes before administering checkmate
Strangemover
jbolden1517 wrote:
Strangemover wrote:

Just give the checkmate and stop being so childish.

 

He's not being childish, he was wronged.  This is an annoying behavior of people burning up the clock rather than resigning.  He's not playing for a lot of money where inconvenience doesn't matter.   He's playing for entertainment and he's not getting it because his opponent is being badly behaved.   Being able to answer "yes" to "Is chess a good hobby" requires that lots of the valid reasons for answering "no" be eliminated. 

 

There is no argument here. Firstly there is no obligation to resign in any situation - both players have agreed to a time control and should be prepared for the game to take that long and to play the game out to checkmate. Secondly in this particular game the OP could have ended the game by checkmate but instead waited over 10 minutes because he expected his opponent to resign. The only person wasting time was the OP. He could have given checkmate and started another game to continue his fun.

eulers_knot

This makes me think that chess.com should implement the conditional move feature in live games.  Give you something to do while you wait...

u412364
1. If you are sure to lose it is a waste of your opponent’s time not to resign, and insulting.

2. The greater the skill level of your opponent the more insulting it is to waste your opponent’s time by not resigning.

3. Beginners may be less inclined to resign even in light of a sure defeat. Etiquette should be observed.
Yenny-Leon
412364 wrote:

3. Beginners may be less inclined to resign even in light of a sure defeat. Etiquette should be observed.

Actually, most chess coaches agree that beginners should never resign.  They can learn from the opponent's mating techniques.  And practice trying to engineer a stalemate, or win on time.  Force the stronger side to earn the win!

Yenny-Leon

And notice that it is usually lower-rated players (as opposed to experts or masters) that complain about an opponent not resigning.  Which makes the complaint sound like an ego-trip (demanding deference that has not yet been earned).  A strong player would simply finish off the non-resigning opponent quickly in as few moves as possible, and not rudely complain about it.

JayeshSinhaChess

If there is a # in 1 and the opponent is thinking and thinking and thinking (which is what it would seem to your opponent waiting for you to move), he/she will obviously think that the opponent is a muppet who doesn't spot and easy # in 1.

 

All the more reason to offer a draw in that position thinking what if this fool accepts.

Muisuitglijder

Congratulations! You just wasted 13 minutes of your life.

Jecnez
Yenny-Leon escribió:
412364 wrote:

3. Beginners may be less inclined to resign even in light of a sure defeat. Etiquette should be observed.

Actually, most chess coaches agree that beginners should never resign.  They can learn from the opponent's mating techniques.  And practice trying to engineer a stalemate, or win on time.  Force the stronger side to earn the win!

Sometimes begginers dont know they are already lost (dont have enought skill to understand the situation). Sometimes they want to learn from an experienced player how to be checkmated but mostly dont resing because they hope some opponent's mistake, like losing a piece, run out ot time of stalemate.

MickinMD

Definitely poor sportsmanship and worse.  Your opponent was possibly hoping that if she waited those minutes, your Internet connection would fail, or that she could make you angry and increase the chance of your fingers slipping while making your move, etc.

Tetra_Wolf
MickinMD wrote:

Definitely poor sportsmanship and worse.  Your opponent was possibly hoping that if she waited those minutes, your Internet connection would fail, or that she could make you angry and increase the chance of your fingers slipping while making your move, etc.

NO IT WAS HIS TURN AND HE WAS THE ONE POINTLESSLY WAITING FOR HIS OPPONENT TO RESIGN WHEN HE HAD AN EASY AND SPOTTED #1. IF HE WAS AFRAID OF THAT HE WOULD HAVE JUST MOVED. READ BEFORE YOU INSULT INNOCENT PEOPLE!