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Why do you need "permission" to make an alt.
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May 15, 2022
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Batman2508 wrote:
It seems silly to me as long as you don't use it for rating manipulation or abuse in some way should be fine right? So why do you need permission? At the same time it begs the question, why would you even do it? because chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.
Probably just because alt accounts are against chess.com tos (exception being permission for an alt granted by staff and these are given very sparingly; usually only just for titled players to practice anonymously or for streamers doing speedruns).
Now why alt accounts are against chess.com tos, I couldn't say as I'm just a "regular" member right now myself. I feel like asking staff for permission for an alt is reasonable though (l*chess doesn't even allow alts or speedruns of any kind).
I'll follow this thread for a staff/mod of chess.com to answer the op question.
My guess is just for records because of abuse/rating manipulation. Anyone could claim they are playing another "player", but there would be no way to prove it isn't just the same person on two accounts manipulating things. By asking for permission to create an alt, at least there is a recorded way to prove they are indeed not the same person.
May 15, 2022
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KeSetoKaiba wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
It seems silly to me as long as you don't use it for rating manipulation or abuse in some way should be fine right? So why do you need permission? At the same time it begs the question, why would you even do it? because chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.
Probably just because alt accounts are against chess.com tos (exception being permission for an alt granted by staff and these are given very sparingly; usually only just for titled players to practice anonymously or for streamers doing speedruns).
Now why alt accounts are against chess.com tos, I couldn't say as I'm just a "regular" member right now myself. I feel like asking staff for permission for an alt is reasonable though (l*chess doesn't even allow alts or speedruns of any kind).
I'll follow this thread for a staff/mod of chess.com to answer the op question.
My guess is just for records because of abuse/rating manipulation. Anyone could claim they are playing another "player", but there would be no way to prove it isn't just the same person on two accounts manipulating things. By asking for permission to create an alt, at least there is a recorded way to prove they are indeed not the same person.
feel like it would obvious
if a high rated player makes an alt then the players facing the alt will lose elo and chess.com will need to refund ratings
May 15, 2022
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Batman2508 wrote:
chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.
I believe that Chess.com says that when multiple family members have their own accounts from the same IP address that those accounts cannot play against each other in rated games.
Although multi-account ratings manipulations tend to be pretty obvious irrespective of those accounts' IP addresses.
May 15, 2022
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Caedrel wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.
I believe that Chess.com says that when multiple family members have their own accounts from the same IP address that those accounts cannot play against each other in rated games.
Although multi-account ratings manipulations tend to be pretty obvious irrespective of those accounts' IP addresses.
yes but I'm saying if it's not rtg minipulation
May 15, 2022
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#10
Why would you need or want an alt account if not to do those other 2 things? You're best off just having the 1 account - it keeps all of your games together in your archive, it keeps your friends list and club membership, all of that stuff. There's no point in having an alt. Which is why by default Chess.com doesn't allow them.
If you really want one, earn a FIDE title or an NM title from your national association.
Batman2508 wrote:
Caedrel wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.
I believe that Chess.com says that when multiple family members have their own accounts from the same IP address that those accounts cannot play against each other in rated games.
Although multi-account ratings manipulations tend to be pretty obvious irrespective of those accounts' IP addresses.
yes but I'm saying if it's not rtg minipulation
-sandbagging
-speedrunning
-getting more usage out of free features than you’re supposed to (like making an account to analyze more of your games)
-bypassing mutes
multiple reasons
May 15, 2022
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Caedrel wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.
I believe that Chess.com says that when multiple family members have their own accounts from the same IP address that those accounts cannot play against each other in rated games.
Although multi-account ratings manipulations tend to be pretty obvious irrespective of those accounts' IP addresses.
not sure if you play OTB chess, but sometimes people find your chess.com account I joined some clubs for local tournaments or something, and they know my account and sometimes they may prep- this is not the usual case it's the oddball here and there.
May 15, 2022
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Batman2508 wrote:
not sure if you play OTB chess, but sometimes people find your chess.com account I joined some clubs for local tournaments or something, and they know my account and sometimes they may prep- this is not the usual case it's the oddball here and there.
Even if you join a Chess.com club that's based locally, how do they know this account is yours? Do you have to tell the admins before they will let you in? In which case, you've chosen to reveal yourself., if not by saying something in the club forums that helps them connect the dots.
May 15, 2022
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Caedrel wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
not sure if you play OTB chess, but sometimes people find your chess.com account I joined some clubs for local tournaments or something, and they know my account and sometimes they may prep- this is not the usual case it's the oddball here and there.
Even if you join a Chess.com club that's based locally, how do they know this account is yours? Do you have to tell the admins before they will let you in? In which case, you've chosen to reveal yourself., if not by saying something in the club forums that helps them connect the dots.
well like it's a local thing lol, plus I won some money and I ofc had to give email and stuff. It was not a scam. I didn't really have a choice.
May 15, 2022
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Batman2508 wrote:
well like it's a local thing lol, plus I won some money and I ofc had to give email and stuff. It was not a scam. I didn't really have a choice.
Well, I guess then the only option is to do all that social stuff here on Chess.com and play your actual chess games somewhere else, like lichess. And have a different username for that lichess account than "Batman2508"
May 15, 2022
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#16
No, you're not allowed and it is considered cheating. But you can probably message staff to see if you can get special approval.
https://support.chess.com/article/596-can-i-have-multiple-accounts
GBTGBA wrote:
Why so people use the yellow duck avatar ?
idk some meme duck song i think
May 15, 2022
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#18
I play against my wife quite a lot, she is so law rated I never get so much as a point when we play and I win, which is always! Never had a problem with ip address issues or such. We share an internet connection at home, what would be the point of having accounts if we cant play together? (she plays me from work too).
Ive really never understood why people manipulate their ratings, you get nothing from it. What does it even do if you gain a few points?
GBTGBA wrote:
Why so people use the yellow duck avatar ?
some guy was banned and he had that pfp and they want him unbanned
It seems silly to me as long as you don't use it for rating manipulation or abuse in some way should be fine right? So why do you need permission? At the same time it begs the question, why would you even do it? because chess.com cannot know from IP address or such due to many family members playing on one device.