Why does chess.com have a stalling rule at all?
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AndreVlok2019
Mar 6, 2022
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In my 18 current daily games I have three blatant stallers (happy to name them). Run the clock of the allocated number of days down to the final hour or three and then move. With a 5 day period, this adds months to a game, especially where they are in a hopeless position. We all need some extra time now and then, but when it becomes a clear trolling pattern it becomes unpleasant. I report these unsportsmanlike players regularly, but generally nothing happens whatsoever.
So why do we pretend to have a rule against stalling at all?
Mar 6, 2022
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#2
There are too many games for chess.com to check, and they're unwilling to make an automated system that auto resigns people like this, so there's nothing you can do.
They make a rule because it sounds nice, not because they can enforce it 
Mar 6, 2022
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AndreVlok2019 wrote:
In my 18 current daily games I have three blatant stallers (happy to name them). Run the clock of the allocated number of days down to the final hour or three and then move. With a 5 day period, this adds months to a game, especially where they are in a hopeless position. We all need some extra time now and then, but when it becomes a clear trolling pattern it becomes unpleasant. I report these unsportsmanlike players regularly, but generally nothing happens whatsoever. So why do we pretend to have a rule against stalling at all?
Players are allowed to use their full allocation of time for each and every move. The site won't do anything about that. What they will action is if a player is using vacation to prolong hopelessly lost games.
Mar 6, 2022
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In Daily games, maybe it's not officially stalling since sure, players are absolutely allowed to use their full time. But it's awfully weird and irritating when it occurs for every single move, starting on move #1. In my brief foray into playing Daily games, I encountered people like that too. I quickly decided that I didn't enjoy playing with those people, so no more Daily games for me.
its a bit unethical at times but i am used to it as theres just a love hate relationship around it
Mar 6, 2022
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Kowarenai wrote:
its a bit unethical at times but i am used to it as theres just a love hate relationship around it
It's not unethical. Each player has X days to make a move and are allowed by the rules to use that time as they see fit.
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Kowarenai wrote:
its a bit unethical at times but i am used to it as theres just a love hate relationship around it
It's not unethical. Each player has X days to make a move and are allowed by the rules to use that time as they see fit.
no i mean in arenas and live games, the stalling
Mar 6, 2022
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Martin_Stahl wrote:
Kowarenai wrote:
its a bit unethical at times but i am used to it as theres just a love hate relationship around it
It's not unethical. Each player has X days to make a move and are allowed by the rules to use that time as they see fit.
Legal and ethical are distinct. In any case, taking all your time only after you've started losing is, at the very least, bad sportsmanship.
Mar 6, 2022
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llama51 wrote:
Legal and ethical are distinct. In any case, taking all your time only after you've started losing is, at the very least, bad sportsmanship.
Using your time isn't bad sportsmanship either, even if a player moved more quickly earlier in the game. I know when I played daily, I played more quickly in winning positions, where it was easier to find moves, and took my time in positions where it was unclear or behind to try and find the best continuation.
Mar 6, 2022
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Sure, it's not necessarily bad sportsmanship.
But for example, play OTB and when completely lost burn people's time so that they only have 15 minutes for lunch instead of an hour. You're not going to make many friends with the "it's not bad sportsmanship to use my time" line.
Mar 8, 2022
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llama51 wrote:
Sure, it's not necessarily bad sportsmanship.
But for example, play OTB and when completely lost burn people's time so that they only have 15 minutes for lunch instead of an hour. You're not going to make many friends with the "it's not bad sportsmanship to use my time" line.
Correspondence isn't OTB. A player using all their time in Daily isn't stopping the other player from doing anything they want, when they want. The only real argument might be in Daily tournaments where a slow mover is involved in the last games of the event, in a game that prevents the next round from starting, but even then, it's a stretch to call it bad sportsmanship.
Mar 8, 2022
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YouEvenLiftBro wrote:
Stalling in rapid and bullet tournaments is malicious because it deprives you of time to win more games before the tournament ends.
and deprives them of time to win, also
Mar 8, 2022
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Martin_Stahl wrote:
llama51 wrote:
Sure, it's not necessarily bad sportsmanship.
But for example, play OTB and when completely lost burn people's time so that they only have 15 minutes for lunch instead of an hour. You're not going to make many friends with the "it's not bad sportsmanship to use my time" line.
Correspondence isn't OTB. A player using all their time in Daily isn't stopping the other player from doing anything they want, when they want. The only real argument might be in Daily tournaments where a slow mover is involved in the last games of the event, in a game that prevents the next round from starting, but even then, it's a stretch to call it bad sportsmanship.
That's a reasonable argument.