Namati: USCF doesn't award certificates for Expert, since you can lose it by going under 2000, but they should award one for CM as it is a life title. But I didn't get a certificate. :(
I know MANY players who reached NM (and even SM) and never received a certificate from USCF. So there you go.
Namati: USCF doesn't award certificates for Expert, since you can lose it by going under 2000, but they should award one for CM as it is a life title. But I didn't get a certificate. :(
I know MANY players who reached NM (and even SM) and never received a certificate from USCF. So there you go.
what is a sm??
When the USCF introduced these titles why did they choose to name them similarly to FIDE titles yet award them for different rating levels? This seems to be causing some confusion outside (and reading this forum) also within USCF.
the only one that is the same (and is very confusing) is the Candidate Master title/milestone/achievement.
Yes, because there are US CM's (awarded from FIDE I presume) listed on chess.com as tiltled players eg:
The OP of this forum is asking why this title (still being awarded by USCF) does not permit similar status on the site. So clear confusion does exist.
Actually, beating a 2200 player results in a performance rating higher than 2200 (it makes sense if you think about it -- you took the win away from the master, so your performance was beyond him). The equivalent to a 2200 performance rating could be, yes, consistently beating players between 2000-2200 in a given tournament (i.e., playing in a way that a player better than 2000 would be expected to play, which would include beating 2000 players as a 2000 player would be expected to only draw other 2000 players), or it could be drawing a 2200(s) as well. But beating a 2200 player is different.
i forgot, very good explanation thx
YEAH! I GOT 1 NORM FOR CM! IDK HOW I COULD POSSIBLY WIN IT AT VEGAS. LOL YOU ALWAYS WIN SOMETHING AT VEGAS! (EVEN FOR NON CHESSERS)
SOMEONE JUST GOT BANNED.
WHO COULD IT BE??! IT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION FOR ABHISHEK's lowered comment!!
YEAH! I GOT 1 NORM FOR CM! IDK HOW I COULD POSSIBLY WIN IT AT VEGAS. LOL YOU ALWAYS WIN SOMETHING AT VEGAS! (EVEN FOR NON CHESSERS)
abhishek why the repeated comment?
Namati: USCF doesn't award certificates for Expert, since you can lose it by going under 2000, but they should award one for CM as it is a life title. But I didn't get a certificate. :(
I know MANY players who reached NM (and even SM) and never received a certificate from USCF. So there you go.
Perhaps they should, but sadly, they don't (I wouldn't mind a certificate either!).
I just got this from the USCF site: "USCF awards two titles for over-the-board play, National Master which is obtained by reaching a 2200 USCF rating after 26 games and Life Master is obtained by playing 300 games at 2200 or higher."
So, other than for NM and LM, no certificates are awarded. Again, why should chess.com officially recognise someone's USCF achievement when the USCF themselves will not officially recognise it? I think complaints about this should be directed to the USCF, not chess.com.
The site is incorrect (or outdated). There are two distinct titles, besides NM: Life Master and Original Life Master.
Life Master is 5 norms at 2200 level (i.e., the level above Candidate Master). That would be 5 performances of 2350+.
Original Life Master is 300 tournament games with a post-tournament rating of 2200.
CM is a stupid title anyways.
wow there is a big discussion.. thanks everyone for the help!
CM is a stupid title anyways.
USCF once had Candidate Experts.
really? cool fact!
CM is a stupid title anyways.
USCF once had Candidate Experts.
CM is just a fancy way of saying "not a master".
Runner-Up Masters
Also-Ran Masters
Honorable-Mention Masters
My friend, Abhishek Handigol is at 1999 USCF and soon will be a Candidate Master for USCF....
someone told me that chess.com won't give him the CM in front of his name even if he gets the 5-norm thing and stuff..
why is this? please help me...
I wouldn't worry too much lol. Isn't that kid like... 11 years old? He'll be a "real" master in a year or two (I'd bet), not a very long wait.
I will say that the road from 2000 to 2200 is full of potholes. It's been about 15 months for me and I've barely made progress towards 2200. A big problem is that most of the candidates, at least out here in the SF Bay Area, are entering junior high or high school at this point, and where most of the kids go to school, junior high or high school, the evenings and weekends are usually filled with homework and projects. Not to mention other activities and Facebook and the like. Also, if it were just me chasing 2200, it would be a lot easier than having to play 10 or 20 other juniors trying to accomplish the same thing.
My Jr High / Highschool was easy... no weekends filled with homework or projects for me.
So when you were chasing 2000 no one else was?
wafflemaster, being a chess coach in NYC I can vouch for Shadowknight911's comment about homework and projects.
The amount of work kids are being given today compared to when I was in school and when the parents of my students were in school is unbelievable. Unimaginable, I would even say.
In middle school I barely got any homework at all, and in high school I never felt overwhelmed. Today, the schools and teachers really pile it on.
But anyway, my point is you guys are really young. If you continue to work hard you're pretty much guaranteed the master title. You may have hit the first real plateau in your chess playing experience, but that's normal, even super star GMs leveled out for a while before jumping back up in ratings at some point. No one gains hundreds of points every year non stop.
Maybe I'm wrong to say a year or two. Maybe longer. But I can't quite imagine preteen experts not being able to add a few hundred more points (if they keep playing and work hard) 
lol wtf, I could have sworn abhiskek's comment was at the top of page 3.
yeah i know, thats why i edited my comment, because i thought his comment was at the top of page 3 too, i thought i was crazy too!